Odd - not much I can add at this point. If you want, you can upload
your files (best to put the sch, brd and netlist or as many of them as
you have) to the files section and I'll have a look at it. (or email them
to me directly)

There maybe some other infringement of the rules going on that you have
not spotted as yet.


You CAN create PCB's manually. You have to turn off all the DRC rules.
However you then miss out on the protection that DRC gives you.

preferences > general (middle of the window, DRC on/off tickbox)
I'm still using the 2009 linux version of Kicad, so in the latest verson
the menu locations may have changed.

When you use DRC and then add a module, the system will complain, as DRC
will not know anything about this component. 


Andy


On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:34:07 -0000
"ma...@ymail.com" <mad...@free.fr> wrote:

> Thank you for your answer. Maybe I'm thinking too simple, or Old school... 
> Last time I successfully used a CAD was 15 years ago. Back then I could 
> certainly make a PCB with Proteus lite without using ISIS (the schematic 
> editor) nor making a netlist... According to the Kicad FAQ, I should be able 
> to work this way...
> "5.1 How do I manually route a PCB?
> Manual routing is quite straight forward. You don't even need to have a 
> schematic."
> 
> I tried the thinnest trace possible, and even straight (with no angle at all) 
> the error occurs!
> 
> Axel
> 
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Andy Eskelson <andyya...@...> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that you are thinking too simple...
> > 
> > KIcad like most design software is designed to work via netlists and so
> > on.
> > 
> > As has been suggested you could simply turn off the design rules checking
> > that will prevent errors and so on.
> > 
> > By far the best method is to create a simple sch. in eeschema and then
> > use that to generate the required netlist. 
> > 
> > It's well worth getting used to creating the circuit then the PCB and so
> > on.
> > 
> > The error is just giving you a warning that a track is too close to a pad.
> > 
> > Tracks and pads have a clearance setting. The normal problkem is that you
> > cut across the pad at an angle with a track, and you just clip the edge
> > of the clearance limit. Centre on where the error is and zoom right in,
> > and you will prob see the problem.
> > 
> > Use a slightly thinner track, or re-route it to miss the clearance area.
> > 
> > Like most packages Kicad takes a bit of getting used to, I used a lot
> > worse! (and not just PCB packages)
> > 
> > Andy
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:39:38 -0000
> > "ma...@..." <mad...@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello group!
> > > This is my first post, so I apologize but I'm afraid I need some help!
> > > 
> > > I installed Kicad (2010-05-05 BZR 2356) on Ubuntu Lucid64. Fine. As far 
> > > as drawing schematics, everything is ok. Now if I try to draw a PCB 
> > > without schematic, without netlist, without autorouter... Just a simple 
> > > one sided circuit board. I create a new project, open PCB new, place say 
> > > a DIP-8_300 component, click on 'add traces and vias', start tracing... 
> > > and get:
> > > Type Err(4) trace near pad
> > > 
> > > What the hell am I doing wrong?
> > > I can draw a trace without problem as long as I don't get near to the 
> > > component (which is not very useful!). It's not component related (same 
> > > behavior with resistances, caps, and so on)
> > > Component and traces are both on the 'under' side. I tried different 
> > > traces sizes, I searched in the manual, in the different tutos, in the 
> > > web... Nada! I searched here but the search server is 'busy' please try 
> > > again later! Plus I don't know what to enter in the search engine, 
> > > 'manual routing' return results such as auto-routing in the kicad manual, 
> > > and the likes!
> > > 
> > > I'm quite convinced that this must be something really simple, but I 
> > > can't find it!
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your help
> > > Axel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your 
> > > question.
> > > Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator 
> > > of Kicad.
> > > Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute 
> > > your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
> > > For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the 
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> > > Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> question.
> Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of 
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