The error occurs only when I try to create a PCB without schematic nor netlist AND with the DRC active. I don't get any error when the DRC is OFF, or if I have a schematic and a proper netlist.
So I guess my problem was that I expected PCBnew to work as a standalone app WITH DRC. Obviously it is not the case. Either I respect the workflow (schematic>netlist>CVpcb>PCBnew) which I understand and agree to when in 'designer' mode, either I have to sacrifice the DRC safety when I want to save some time and draw a PCB from scratch. Thanks to all for helping me clarifying that out! Axel --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyya...@...> wrote: > > Odd - not much I can add at this point. If you want, you can upload > your files (best to put the sch, brd and netlist or as many of them as > you have) to the files section and I'll have a look at it. (or email them > to me directly) > > There maybe some other infringement of the rules going on that you have > not spotted as yet. > > > You CAN create PCB's manually. You have to turn off all the DRC rules. > However you then miss out on the protection that DRC gives you. > > preferences > general (middle of the window, DRC on/off tickbox) > I'm still using the 2009 linux version of Kicad, so in the latest verson > the menu locations may have changed. > > When you use DRC and then add a module, the system will complain, as DRC > will not know anything about this component. > > > Andy > > > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:34:07 -0000 > "ma...@..." <mad...@...> wrote: > > > Thank you for your answer. Maybe I'm thinking too simple, or Old school... > > Last time I successfully used a CAD was 15 years ago. Back then I could > > certainly make a PCB with Proteus lite without using ISIS (the schematic > > editor) nor making a netlist... According to the Kicad FAQ, I should be > > able to work this way... > > "5.1 How do I manually route a PCB? > > Manual routing is quite straight forward. You don't even need to have a > > schematic." > > > > I tried the thinnest trace possible, and even straight (with no angle at > > all) the error occurs! > > > > Axel > > > > --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@> wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that you are thinking too simple... > > > > > > KIcad like most design software is designed to work via netlists and so > > > on. > > > > > > As has been suggested you could simply turn off the design rules checking > > > that will prevent errors and so on. > > > > > > By far the best method is to create a simple sch. in eeschema and then > > > use that to generate the required netlist. > > > > > > It's well worth getting used to creating the circuit then the PCB and so > > > on. > > > > > > The error is just giving you a warning that a track is too close to a pad. > > > > > > Tracks and pads have a clearance setting. The normal problkem is that you > > > cut across the pad at an angle with a track, and you just clip the edge > > > of the clearance limit. Centre on where the error is and zoom right in, > > > and you will prob see the problem. > > > > > > Use a slightly thinner track, or re-route it to miss the clearance area. > > > > > > Like most packages Kicad takes a bit of getting used to, I used a lot > > > worse! (and not just PCB packages) > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:39:38 -0000 > > > "madax@" <mad.ax@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello group! > > > > This is my first post, so I apologize but I'm afraid I need some help! > > > > > > > > I installed Kicad (2010-05-05 BZR 2356) on Ubuntu Lucid64. Fine. As far > > > > as drawing schematics, everything is ok. Now if I try to draw a PCB > > > > without schematic, without netlist, without autorouter... Just a simple > > > > one sided circuit board. I create a new project, open PCB new, place > > > > say a DIP-8_300 component, click on 'add traces and vias', start > > > > tracing... and get: > > > > Type Err(4) trace near pad > > > > > > > > What the hell am I doing wrong? > > > > I can draw a trace without problem as long as I don't get near to the > > > > component (which is not very useful!). It's not component related (same > > > > behavior with resistances, caps, and so on) > > > > Component and traces are both on the 'under' side. I tried different > > > > traces sizes, I searched in the manual, in the different tutos, in the > > > > web... Nada! I searched here but the search server is 'busy' please try > > > > again later! Plus I don't know what to enter in the search engine, > > > > 'manual routing' return results such as auto-routing in the kicad > > > > manual, and the likes! > > > > > > > > I'm quite convinced that this must be something really simple, but I > > > > can't find it! > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting > > > > your question. > > > > Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the > > > > creator of Kicad. > > > > Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute > > > > your symbols/modules to the kicad library. > > > > For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit > > > > the kicad-devel group at > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your > > question. > > Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of > > Kicad. > > Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your > > symbols/modules to the kicad library. > > For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the > > kicad-devel group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-develYahoo! Groups > > Links > > > > > > >
