Stewart Stremler wrote: > Depending on how you view "freedom", you could argue that France has > been chasing the dream just about as long; that the Netherlands do more > of it; etc. etc.
I would agree that France and the Netherlands enjoy quite a bit of freedom also. > So are we talking *practice*, or are we just talking about how good we > are at SAYING we are? Dunno. Am I required to say I think we are bad at both? > Yup. > > 'course, if you replace "Vietnam" with "USA", it *still* works. I realize this is the expected cynical comment to make here but that really isn't true. Our papers and governments do not tell us we are free. Not like the ones over there do. The freedom we enjoy here is of an entirely different magnitude. <required-kooler-weasel-wording>Yes, we are not as free as we would like to be.</required-kooler-weasel-wording> But it really isn't the same. > >>>Imagine if the average american newspaper had a topless woman on page 3. >> >>It sure would make a lot more young men willing to risk their lives for >>their country! :) >> >><yakov>Boobies with my headlines? WHAT A COUNTRY!</yakov> > > Try again. They'd be shut down. You only get free speech here in carefully > selected topics. Yes, they would be shut down under the current system. The hypothetical proposed was "Imagine if..." > Granted, that range of topics is pretty darn wide. And I think we do a > pretty good tradeoff in making it all work. But that's a far cry from > expecting anyone else to think that we do the 'best' job. Indeed. >>Freenet takes the malicious router problem very seriously and does >>everything it can to account for it in their design. > > That's not the same thing as saying they solved the problem. No, it's not. But at least they have the potential to solve it which is a lot more than can be said for the rest of us who are not even trying. > -Stewart "The question is... is it good *enough*?" Stremler -- Tracy "only one way to find out" Reed http://copilotconsulting.com -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
