Here's the article I found titled "Update on Luri: How many languages?"
by Erik John Anonby: original link
<http://anonby.balafon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jra-172-171-197.pdf>,
you can see on the figure #2, said "Luri-Lurestani-khorramabadi" is the
main dialect and "Luri-Borujerdi" is the other dialect of Northern Luri
(lrc), and on the figure #3 shown west of current Iran's map, said
"Lurestani" is the main area of Northern Luri (lrc), lower on these
dialects is "Laki" on the figure #2 sands for Laki language (lki) , and
"Laki" area on the figure #3. On the figure #2 upper of Northern Luri
(lrc) dialects you can see the "Bakhtiari" (bqi) dialects and
"Kohkiloyeh" and "Bouyerahmad" (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages
#186 to #197 you can compares the example differences between these
languages.
On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
As I mentioned also concerning Western Balochi, we need an outside
scholar / linguist / language expert for verification purposes. Any
useful bona-fide contacts?
On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
This
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
is the list of top articles was provided by Mogoeilor, even he named
the language of this wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page, and
I didn't see that.
On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
Yes.
On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
A longstanding requirement for any and all languages is that they
have to have an ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language not a
macro language.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There is no such thing as they are a resources of world's
languages, people are the resources and they only maintainer
code, the unified codes that the world uses. Is there any
confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet?
On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Ethnologue is the maintainer of the ISO-639-3. As such they
are an authority.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You're right, I can't trust a self verification too, but
what do you expect me do to?, you can probably find a lot
of trustable resources on the Internet, I my self can't
even trust ethnologue, because I found unuseful
information on it and I don't know where they come from,
at least in Wikipedia, we have resources, I didn't expect
that from you.
On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Wikipedia is in this not an authority. It has never been.
Again, self certification does not work for me.. We have
been hurt by that before.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Alright then, that's Northern Luri, fair enough, I
didn't have any knowledge that there is a southern
dialect of it and people of Kohgiluyeh and
Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak that, I only knew
Lorestan, but per English wikipedia, they're dialects
of Northern Luri which this wiki is written in.
On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Check this out ...
http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
It rather complicates things... By the way self
certification is not a good idea.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 24 April 2015 at 22:45, Mjbmr <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes. 100%, as I live Iran and I know some parts
of this language, it is definitely Luri.
Mohammad Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor) the most active
user of this project is from Lorestan so
definitely he speaks in this language every day.
In Iran it's called Luri, some people call it
Lurish
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
as the translation for English, per this
<http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc>
the language should be called Northern Luri, but
none of it dialects are called Luri, so I call
it Luri too. I have also submitted and now
accepted a ticket to CLDR to support this
language. Other proposal of dialects of this
language like Bakhtiari
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
failed because of being a part of this language.
Also they list of article I've just provided are
the best of them as you can see there are no
Persian words in them.
On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Do we have confirmation that it is indeed Luri ?
Thanks,
Gerard
On 24 April 2015 at 20:42, Mjbmr
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
I ask langcom members for approval of Luri
Wikipedia,
here are some top articles I could list,
but there are more of them
1. استیو جابز
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
(Steve Jobs)
2. آلورت انیشتین
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
(Albert Einstein)
3. کلمبیا
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7>
(Colombia)
4. شهید چمران
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
(Mostafa Chamran)
5. شایا عیلامی
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
(List of rulers of Elam)
6. کارلوس فوئنتس
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
(Carlos Fuentes)
Analysis
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
shows that this project has enough users
and most of mediawiki message
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
been translated.
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