Hoi,
Reading an article does not make us an expert.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 27 April 2015 at 15:17, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here's the article I found titled "Update on Luri: How many languages?"
> by Erik John Anonby: original link
> <http://anonby.balafon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jra-172-171-197.pdf>,
> you can see on the figure #2, said "Luri-Lurestani-khorramabadi" is the
> main dialect and "Luri-Borujerdi" is the other dialect of Northern Luri
> (lrc), and on the figure #3 shown west of current Iran's map, said
> "Lurestani" is the main area of Northern Luri (lrc), lower on these
> dialects is "Laki" on the figure #2 sands for Laki language (lki) , and
> "Laki" area on the figure #3. On the figure #2 upper of Northern Luri (lrc)
> dialects you can see the "Bakhtiari" (bqi) dialects and "Kohkiloyeh" and
> "Bouyerahmad" (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages #186 to #197 you can
> compares the example differences between these languages.
>
>
>
> On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
>
> As I mentioned also concerning Western Balochi, we need an outside scholar
> / linguist / language expert for verification purposes. Any useful
> bona-fide contacts?
>
> On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
>
> This
> <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
> is the list of top articles was provided by Mogoeilor, even he named the
> language of this wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page, and I didn't
> see that.
>
> On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
> On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> A longstanding requirement for any and all languages is that they have to
> have an ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language not a macro language.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is no such thing as they are a resources of world's languages,
>> people are the resources and they only maintainer code, the unified codes
>> that the world uses. Is there any confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet?
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>
>> Hoi,
>> Ethnologue is the maintainer of the ISO-639-3. As such they are an
>> authority.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You're right, I can't trust a self verification too, but what do you
>>> expect me do to?, you can probably find a lot of trustable resources on the
>>> Internet, I my self can't even trust ethnologue, because I found unuseful
>>> information on it and I don't know where they come from, at least in
>>> Wikipedia, we have resources, I didn't expect that from you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> Wikipedia is in this not an authority. It has never been. Again, self
>>> certification does not work for me.. We have been hurt by that before.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alright then, that's Northern Luri, fair enough, I didn't have any
>>>> knowledge that there is a southern dialect of it and people of Kohgiluyeh
>>>> and Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak that, I only knew Lorestan, but per
>>>> English wikipedia, they're dialects of Northern Luri which this wiki is
>>>> written in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> Check this out ... http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
>>>>
>>>> It rather complicates things... By the way self certification is not a
>>>> good idea.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> GerardM
>>>>
>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 22:45, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. 100%, as I live Iran and I know some parts of this language, it
>>>>> is definitely Luri. Mohammad Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor) the most active user
>>>>> of this project is from Lorestan so definitely he speaks in this language
>>>>> every day. In Iran it's called Luri, some people call it Lurish
>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
>>>>> as the translation for English, per this
>>>>> <http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc> the
>>>>> language should be called Northern Luri, but none of it dialects are
>>>>> called
>>>>> Luri, so I call it Luri too. I have also submitted and now accepted a
>>>>> ticket to CLDR to support this language. Other proposal of dialects of
>>>>> this
>>>>> language like Bakhtiari
>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
>>>>> failed because of being a part of this language. Also they list of article
>>>>> I've just provided are the best of them as you can see there are no
>>>>> Persian
>>>>> words in them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>> Do we have confirmation that it is indeed Luri ?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 20:42, Mjbmr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask langcom members for approval of Luri Wikipedia,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here are some top articles I could list, but there are more of them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. استیو جابز
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
>>>>>> (Steve Jobs)
>>>>>> 2. آلورت انیشتین
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Albert Einstein)
>>>>>> 3. کلمبیا
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7> (
>>>>>> Colombia)
>>>>>> 4. شهید چمران
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Mostafa Chamran)
>>>>>> 5. شایا عیلامی
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
>>>>>> (List of rulers of Elam)
>>>>>> 6. کارلوس فوئنتس
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
>>>>>> (Carlos Fuentes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Analysis
>>>>>> <https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
>>>>>> shows that this project has enough users and most of mediawiki
>>>>>> message <https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
>>>>>> been translated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Langcom mailing list
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Langcom mailing
>>>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Langcom mailing list
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Langcom mailing
>>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Langcom mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Langcom mailing
>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Langcom mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Langcom mailing
>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Langcom mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Langcom mailing
> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Langcom mailing
> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Langcom mailing
> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Langcom mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
>
>
_______________________________________________
Langcom mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
