Not so - Steven's proposal on April 2 was to *reject* the proposal for
closure. I didn't oppose Steven's proposal as I was happy to keep it open.
Fwiw,
Oliver
On 10-Apr-18 18:40, MarcoAurelio wrote:
If so there has been unanimous consensus to close, as Gerard supported
and no one opposed. Thanks, M.
El El mar, 10 abr 2018 a las 15:48, Steven White
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:
Marco, with due respect, I first posted a notice on this on March
19. I let it run until April 2. Up to that point, the only member
of LangCom (other than me) who had commented substantively was
Gerard. Then on April 2 I announced that if I didn't hear anything
else from anyone in another week, I was going to close as
rejected. And I heard nothing else, even from Gerard. So on April
9 I marked as rejected. That fulfilled all requirement of the
current voting policy.
Frankly, I wish more members of the Committee would take a more
active role in discussions. But I am trying very hard not to allow
requests to back up, and to work through backlogs. So as long as
all requirements of policy have been met, I will continue to move
things along.
Steven
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 22:28:39 +0200
From: MarcoAurelio <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Several updates
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Hi,
>
> Rejecting request to close Malagasy Wikibooks—comment by only
one LangCom
member is not sufficient to constitute consensus to close a
project that
has no violatons of fundamental rules
>
Sorry but I find this rather innapropriate and contrary to LangCom
voting
rules as stated at: <
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and the
closure of projects policy decision policy <
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There has to be a proposal comming from a LangCom member,
announced on this
list and to the community, and thereafter a voting has to take
place, with
the Board holding ultimate vetoing power.
None of such steps have been taken.
The decision should be reversed as being done against policy.
Thanks, M.
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 23:17:27 +0100
From: Michael Everson <[email protected]
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To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Approval for Santali Wikipedia
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It lacks an Ol Chiki font.
> On 9 Apr 2018, at 18:15, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Santali is a language from the Indian subcontinent with around
6.3 billion speakers. The request for the Wikipedi in Santali has
been there for long and it was a part of CIS-A2K's 2014-15 Work
Plan as well.
>
> The volunteer community has been working actively since
September 2017 and all the translations have been completed as well.
>
> In a campaign of supporting Indian language Wikipedia program
coordinated by Wikimedia Foundation , Google, Centre for Internet
and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN), two of their
editors, Ramjit Tudu and Fagu Baskey have received laptops for
their consistent effort for Santali Wikipedia
(https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSupporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program%2FSupport%2FLaptops&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57857d893a0048091e6808d59edabbba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636589584646177925&sdata=Td2eKtDsRDH7yAb5hR01aN1nZUIKl5T7GTWHjonYsX8%3D&reserved=0).
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> I even got some sample articles from a volunteer:
>
> 1. Leonardo da Vinci
> 2. Thomas Edison
> 3. Abdul Kalam
>
> I strongly suggest the approval of this Wikipedia as soon as
possible.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
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> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 22:55:27 +0000
From: Steven White <[email protected]
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Subject: [Langcom] Open Wikipedia requests dating to 2011 (fifth and
final set)
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Southern
Altai<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Southern_Altai&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57857d893a0048091e6808d59edabbba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636589584646177925&sdata=Ct%2FGmel%2Bn69TWZkglDwIdi%2BvP5MEKaLbNn0TIXa92Eo%3D&reserved=0>
(alt), and related request from 2015 for Northern
Altai<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Northern_Altai&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57857d893a0048091e6808d59edabbba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636589584646177925&sdata=ROraKuAkIGlsmQRGB6DPQbhJS6SAsAswIND2p0p5MYE%3D&reserved=0>
(atv): Altai is spoken by about 55,000 people. Southern Altai is
the official language of the Altai Republic, and is the basis for
the written language. Test has about 100 pages. There seems to be
little doubt Southern Altai should be eligible. I do wonder about
Northern Altai, though. It's the official language of Altai Krai,
its test has about 30 pages, and it's apparently not fully
mutually intelligible with Southern Altai. Amir, do you know
anything about these? I will mark Southern Altai eligible
immediately; I will wait a few days for comments, but then will
probably mark Northern Altai eligible, too.
Teri
Sami<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Ter_Sami&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57857d893a0048091e6808d59edabbba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636589584646177925&sdata=rqTstR%2FMr%2BNgdlExHZNVynGHBA58%2B9%2FtSXTKV23DgwQ%3D&reserved=0>
(sjt): Similar argument to Kildin Sami from previous set, though
the enwiki article now says that there are two speakers left.
There are about 20 pages in the test. Marking as eligible.
Ingrian
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(izh): Also similar argument to Kildin Sami. (Someone must have
done a spurt of languages from Russia back then.) About 100 test
pages. Eligible.
Once these three requests have been taken care of, all requests
dating back to 2011 or earlier will have been addressed except for
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The last I recall, Satdeep was looking into that situation, and I
am leaving it in his hands.
Steven
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