I have not gotten a reply yet. Yesterday I emailed to more people from Pakistani universities with Saraiki departments, but no reply from any if them yet either.
ons. 16. okt. 2019, 16:29 skrev Steven White <[email protected]>: > Have we heard from the expert yet? > > On a related subject: Do we have any Wiktionary experts here? Saraiki > Wiktionary is also now approvable in theory (assuming that the language > issue on the Wikipedia clears). My concern about the Saraiki Wiktionary is > only that compared to a lot of Wiktionary projects, this one appears pretty > basic to me: just a straight Saraiki dictionary, with little in the way of > bells and whistles (pronunciation, translations to other languages, etc.). > But that's just based on the gross appearance of pages, as I do not read > Saraiki (or any other language written in Perso-Arabic script). So Satdeep > and anyone else: Does the content look ok? Are there greater expectations > of what a Wiktionary should contain—expectations we have not communicated, > I will add—or is this project appropriate and acceptable? > > Steven > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon > Harald Søby <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:38 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <[email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in Saraiki > > I am still waiting to hear back from the expert. If he says the rest of > the pages look fine, then I think we can move forward – Steven makes some > good points as usual. > > tor. 10. okt. 2019 kl. 21:03 skrev Gerard Meijssen < > [email protected]>: > > Hoi, > The final stage is that we verify if the language it is said to be. When > we find it is not or are not certain we have all the room to seek another > authority to move forward. At this stage it becomes confusing and I am not > convinced at all that we should. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:21, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is effectively the same problem as we saw in the discussion of > Montenegrin Wikipedia—although since all but two of us are from Europe, > North America or Israel, we feel more confident making calls in a case like > Montenegrin than we do here. (And, candidly, there is less chance in the > Montenegrin case of being accused of racism/Euro-centrism, even if that > accusation would be totally without merit in this case.) > > But as I said back then, the rule as currently written is fine when the > language area starts with a clean slate. If there were no Western Punjabi > Wikipedia now, we could reasonably try to get a single project to try to > accommodate both Western Punjabi and Saraiki. (Whether that effort would be > successful is a different question, but we could try.) However, I take > Satdeep's comment below to indicate that there would be serious problems > trying to integrate a new Saraiki-language community into a ten-year old > Western Punjabi-language community, and that he recommends against it, > based on the current "facts on the ground". Besides, to some extent the > time to say "no" has passed, since Satdeep marked the project as "eligible" > in 2017. So I think we need to move forward with this. > > Steven > > Sent from Outlook > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fweboutlook&data=02%7C01%7C%7C27b14763c84b4b786fe808d74db9839a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637063331479640783&sdata=%2Be5t%2F8MN7boQ1F1ZLIYwwDG0L5Y2w685G48TmpiTLN8%3D&reserved=0> > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon > Harald Søby <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:44 AM > *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <[email protected] > > > *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in Saraiki > > ... > > As for the Western Punjabi/Saraiki issue, I don't know enough about that > to have any opinion either way. > > tir. 8. okt. 2019 kl. 19:00 skrev Satdeep Gill <[email protected]>: > > ... > > P.S. Western Punjabi and Saraiki are pretty similar and my personal view > is that this should be accommodated on one Wikipedia but the > sociology-political situation in Pakistan calls for a separate Wikipedia > for Saraiki. > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C27b14763c84b4b786fe808d74db9839a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637063331479640783&sdata=vRDOwHRLv%2B6qFNok%2BLJNeiRAFrzuBWGo6pRn1BO1%2B9g%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C27b14763c84b4b786fe808d74db9839a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637063331479650791&sdata=XOi5ymt%2Fz8fi71Oltu04freVjNcHF97HV0YlMZsR4p4%3D&reserved=0> > > > > -- > mvh > Jon Harald Søby > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >
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