I am still waiting to hear back from the expert. If he says the rest of the pages look fine, then I think we can move forward – Steven makes some good points as usual.
tor. 10. okt. 2019 kl. 21:03 skrev Gerard Meijssen < [email protected]>: > Hoi, > The final stage is that we verify if the language it is said to be. When > we find it is not or are not certain we have all the room to seek another > authority to move forward. At this stage it becomes confusing and I am not > convinced at all that we should. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:21, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is effectively the same problem as we saw in the discussion of >> Montenegrin Wikipedia—although since all but two of us are from Europe, >> North America or Israel, we feel more confident making calls in a case like >> Montenegrin than we do here. (And, candidly, there is less chance in the >> Montenegrin case of being accused of racism/Euro-centrism, even if that >> accusation would be totally without merit in this case.) >> >> But as I said back then, the rule as currently written is fine when the >> language area starts with a clean slate. If there were no Western Punjabi >> Wikipedia now, we could reasonably try to get a single project to try to >> accommodate both Western Punjabi and Saraiki. (Whether that effort would be >> successful is a different question, but we could try.) However, I take >> Satdeep's comment below to indicate that there would be serious problems >> trying to integrate a new Saraiki-language community into a ten-year old >> Western Punjabi-language community, and that he recommends against it, >> based on the current "facts on the ground". Besides, to some extent the >> time to say "no" has passed, since Satdeep marked the project as "eligible" >> in 2017. So I think we need to move forward with this. >> >> Steven >> >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Langcom <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon >> Harald Søby <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:44 AM >> *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in Saraiki >> >> ... >> >> As for the Western Punjabi/Saraiki issue, I don't know enough about that >> to have any opinion either way. >> >> tir. 8. okt. 2019 kl. 19:00 skrev Satdeep Gill <[email protected]>: >> >> ... >> >> P.S. Western Punjabi and Saraiki are pretty similar and my personal view >> is that this should be accommodated on one Wikipedia but the >> sociology-political situation in Pakistan calls for a separate Wikipedia >> for Saraiki. >> >> Regards >> Satdeep Gill >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > -- mvh Jon Harald Søby
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