Hoi,
The final stage is that we verify if the language it is said to be. When we
find it is not or are not certain we have all the room to seek another
authority to move forward. At this stage it becomes confusing and I am not
convinced at all that we should.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:21, Steven White <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is effectively the same problem as we saw in the discussion of
> Montenegrin Wikipedia—although since all but two of us are from Europe,
> North America or Israel, we feel more confident making calls in a case like
> Montenegrin than we do here. (And, candidly, there is less chance in the
> Montenegrin case of being accused of racism/Euro-centrism, even if that
> accusation would be totally without merit in this case.)
>
> But as I said back then, the rule as currently written is fine when the
> language area starts with a clean slate. If there were no Western Punjabi
> Wikipedia now, we could reasonably try to get a single project to try to
> accommodate both Western Punjabi and Saraiki. (Whether that effort would be
> successful is a different question, but we could try.) However, I take
> Satdeep's comment below to indicate that there would be serious problems
> trying to integrate a new Saraiki-language community into a ten-year old
> Western Punjabi-language community, and that he recommends against it,
> based on the current "facts on the ground". Besides, to some extent the
> time to say "no" has passed, since Satdeep marked the project as "eligible"
> in 2017. So I think we need to move forward with this.
>
> Steven
>
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> Harald Søby <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:44 AM
> *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <[email protected]
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in Saraiki
>
> ...
>
> As for the Western Punjabi/Saraiki issue, I don't know enough about that
> to have any opinion either way.
>
> tir. 8. okt. 2019 kl. 19:00 skrev Satdeep Gill <[email protected]>:
>
> ...
>
> P.S. Western Punjabi and Saraiki are pretty similar and my personal view
> is that this should be accommodated on one Wikipedia but the
> sociology-political situation in Pakistan calls for a separate Wikipedia
> for Saraiki.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
>
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