I dont know what the current going rate is in the Championship, but I would have thought that for a top Championship club (which we are aspiring to be next season) £8-10k a week isn't over the odds is it?
Im not saying I agree with it, 8000 a week is an obscene sum of money, but it doesn't sound that high against the other teams at the upper end of the division to me... On 10 June 2011 13:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > Noone said anything about 'caving in' to anyone's demands. Say the agent > was at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done > between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off is a > ridiculous state of affairs. As for journeymen - both players have been with > us for a number of years, improved and given good service in that time. I > don't have their wikipedias open in front of me but I'll bet given their age > they will have had fewer than 3 clubs. Do you know what journeymen means? > > I suggest you do likewise re turnover to wages and the rules. The clubs in > our division have agreed to 'work towards' the introduction of new > regulations by the beginning of 2012/13. At the moment, the turnover:wages > ratio limit at LEAGUE 2 level is 60% reducing to 55% next year. Deloitte say > 60% in football is sustainable. If your figures are right and we pay our > players 11k a week (allowing for youth team and reserve players) we have at > least 30% room for manoeuvre on an aspirational target for two divisions > below us. This is why our good young players are walking for free. This is > short termism - they walk for nowt. We have the option of either replacing > them with better or equivalent players (which costs Market rate wages + > transfer fee) or grabbing short term loans and hasbeens to plug the gap. Ken > chooses the latter option which is why we will be relegated within the next > 5 years without investment in the current squad and better players too. Mark > my words. > > For the record I never said we should be paying Johnson and Kilkenny > £11,000.00 a week. Obviously we should negotiate a deal which suits all > parties. > > As for holding Coventry up as some shining example, I note that they posted > a loss last year of £3,000,000.00. The only way a football club seriously > makes money is through football. I'm glad you enjoyed your trade fair but > you havent got a clue, have you? > > I > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 19:51, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >>> Problem: we make a lot more than just gate receipts. Tv money, > > licensing, sponsorship. All that stuff. Where's all that money Terry?<< > > > > > > TV money is nothing compared to prem TV money. Gate receipts are still > the > > biggest income outside the PL. > > > >>> We are going to replace decent young players who formed the core of > the > > team SG is trying to build and who have improved consistently as a group > > over the last few seasons, with neverhasbeens and loanees. That is not > how > > you build a team to compete at the highest level.<< > > > > > > > > > > But caving in to agents' demands and giving 300% pay rises to journeymen > > is? > > > > I suggest you take a look at the Football League's rules regarding the > > percentage of turnover that can be used to pay wages. And then look at > LUFC's > > recently posted annual results. > > > > It seems you've learned nothing from the Ridsdale debacle. > > > > > >>> The club will never progress on the cheap - it's not possible. > > Meanwhile season ticket prices rise inexorably to gargantuan levels and > we all trot > > along like sheep. Say what you want about the scousers - least they > don't > > put up with this sh!t.<< > > > > > > They're in the premiership, with proper TV money, not the scraps you get > > in the FL. > > > > > >>> I'm am not arguing for spend spend spend,<< > > > > Yes you are. You clearly believe we should be paying Johnson and Kilkenny > > £11,000 a week. That's £1.3m a year - out of a turnover of £27m. How many > > players should be pay that sort of money to Ian? The first eleven? That > > would take the wage bill up to more than £7m - you've already blown 25% > of the > > club's income. > > > > After seven seasons outside the top flight you've not learned to > readjust > > your horizons yet. £4k a week is a decent championship wage. £11k is > better > > than many premiership players earn. > > > > > > > >>> just sustainable investment in the team and not White elephant radio > > stations, conference centres and beeston fine dining.<< > > > > > > Banqueting, conferences and exhibitions are excellent earners for > football > > clubs. I went to a trade show at the Ricoh Arena the other week. An > > excellent facility, well located and with ample car parking. It's > exactly what we > > should be doing, and brings in profitable revenue. > > > > You haven't got a clue, have you. > > > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
