Exactly. It's a shite state of affairs that footballers command such cash but that's the law of the market. If ken doesn't like it, he should go back to running a fcking concrete business so he can pay his staff minimum wage and expect them to be grateful.
Sent from my iPhone On 10 Jun 2011, at 13:58, Lee Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > I dont know what the current going rate is in the Championship, but I would > have thought that for a top Championship club (which we are aspiring to be > next season) £8-10k a week isn't over the odds is it? > > Im not saying I agree with it, 8000 a week is an obscene sum of money, but it > doesn't sound that high against the other teams at the upper end of the > division to me... > > On 10 June 2011 13:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > Noone said anything about 'caving in' to anyone's demands. Say the agent was > at 11k, and we're at 4k. If you can negotiate there is a deal to be done > between 5-8k. Simply saying take our starting offer or fck off is a > ridiculous state of affairs. As for journeymen - both players have been with > us for a number of years, improved and given good service in that time. I > don't have their wikipedias open in front of me but I'll bet given their age > they will have had fewer than 3 clubs. Do you know what journeymen means? > > I suggest you do likewise re turnover to wages and the rules. The clubs in > our division have agreed to 'work towards' the introduction of new > regulations by the beginning of 2012/13. At the moment, the turnover:wages > ratio limit at LEAGUE 2 level is 60% reducing to 55% next year. Deloitte say > 60% in football is sustainable. If your figures are right and we pay our > players 11k a week (allowing for youth team and reserve players) we have at > least 30% room for manoeuvre on an aspirational target for two divisions > below us. This is why our good young players are walking for free. This is > short termism - they walk for nowt. We have the option of either replacing > them with better or equivalent players (which costs Market rate wages + > transfer fee) or grabbing short term loans and hasbeens to plug the gap. Ken > chooses the latter option which is why we will be relegated within the next 5 > years without investment in the current squad and better players too. Mark my > words. > > For the record I never said we should be paying Johnson and Kilkenny > £11,000.00 a week. Obviously we should negotiate a deal which suits all > parties. > > As for holding Coventry up as some shining example, I note that they posted a > loss last year of £3,000,000.00. The only way a football club seriously makes > money is through football. I'm glad you enjoyed your trade fair but you > havent got a clue, have you? > > I > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 9 Jun 2011, at 19:51, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >>> Problem: we make a lot more than just gate receipts. Tv money, > > licensing, sponsorship. All that stuff. Where's all that money Terry?<< > > > > > > TV money is nothing compared to prem TV money. Gate receipts are still the > > biggest income outside the PL. > > > >>> We are going to replace decent young players who formed the core of the > > team SG is trying to build and who have improved consistently as a group > > over the last few seasons, with neverhasbeens and loanees. That is not how > > you build a team to compete at the highest level.<< > > > > > > > > > > But caving in to agents' demands and giving 300% pay rises to journeymen > > is? > > > > I suggest you take a look at the Football League's rules regarding the > > percentage of turnover that can be used to pay wages. And then look at > > LUFC's > > recently posted annual results. > > > > It seems you've learned nothing from the Ridsdale debacle. > > > > > >>> The club will never progress on the cheap - it's not possible. > > Meanwhile season ticket prices rise inexorably to gargantuan levels and we > > all trot > > along like sheep. Say what you want about the scousers - least they don't > > put up with this sh!t.<< > > > > > > They're in the premiership, with proper TV money, not the scraps you get > > in the FL. > > > > > >>> I'm am not arguing for spend spend spend,<< > > > > Yes you are. You clearly believe we should be paying Johnson and Kilkenny > > £11,000 a week. That's £1.3m a year - out of a turnover of £27m. How many > > players should be pay that sort of money to Ian? The first eleven? That > > would take the wage bill up to more than £7m - you've already blown 25% of > > the > > club's income. > > > > After seven seasons outside the top flight you've not learned to readjust > > your horizons yet. £4k a week is a decent championship wage. £11k is better > > than many premiership players earn. > > > > > > > >>> just sustainable investment in the team and not White elephant radio > > stations, conference centres and beeston fine dining.<< > > > > > > Banqueting, conferences and exhibitions are excellent earners for football > > clubs. I went to a trade show at the Ricoh Arena the other week. An > > excellent facility, well located and with ample car parking. It's exactly > > what we > > should be doing, and brings in profitable revenue. > > > > You haven't got a clue, have you. > > > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it) > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER (There's it)
