I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I dont
think its a coincidence he got shot by the police the same day this started.
But thats my opinion only. Apparently another trigger was rough policing to
a peaceful protest that demanded justice. Maybe its a clue that rough
policing will trigger further violent escalations?

>From a legal point of view anybody with a local passport is a citizen.
Citizen: "A legally recognized subject or national of a state or
commonwealth, either native or naturalized."

However I take your point this has been abused by a vast majority of people
who are not linked to the initial incident. A bit like hooligans that go to
football games to pick a fight, not to watch football.
I also agree that waving a shooting arm at police is asking for trouble. I
wouldnt want to be the police officer having to make that call.

Cheers,
Eric

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Mark Humphries <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I wouldn't call the people who are looting and rioting as "citizens".
>
> Luckily it seems to be being brought under control now, but if it wasn't
> then there is a very good risk of some of us citizens standing up to them
> ourselves, and that could indeed be called a civil war.
>
> And again, let's not try and link what is happening with the shooting in
> Tottenham, it is totally unrelated and the vast majority of those looting
> wouldn't even know the blokes name.  The bloke who was shot was waving
> around a firearm, so let's also not infer that this was another innocent
> victim or police brutality.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> Behalf Of Eric B
> Sent: 10 August 2011 10:27
> To: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
>
> maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk
> killing kids? After all this did start by someone being shot by the police.
> tear gas wont kill anyone so maybe thats a better idea.
>
> I note that quite a few people wants the army involved however I d say that
> putting the army against your own citizens is similar to a civil war in
> many
> respects.
> I understand these are riots but hey... Hence I agree this is a job for the
> police and not the army.
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:19 AM, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
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