>From what Russel Means said in Where White Men Fear to Tread and what
others have said the charter and goverence style was pushed on the
tribes by the BIA, it appears the BIA never appreciated the
consenuence almost leaderless style that several of the tribes
had.
Now on the membership fiqures does that include children and the
elderly which can account for over half the poulation or more in some
groups. Now the Eastern Choctaw in Mississppi employ a lot of non
tribal members in their busineses because there are not enough
members to work in the Casinos, factories, musems, resorts,
restraunts, golf courses, finacial services, schools, tribal
government, home construction, timber operations and other Businesses
the tribe owns, they even have a factory or two overseas and own land
around Memphis, Tennessee..
I agree something smells fishy if the Council from the group that
has the casino says money can't cross statelines.--- In
[email protected], "kiddleddee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree that the BIA is a big problem, but according to the tribe's
> own website and presumably its "charter" or whatever document
> establishes its governing body - the tribal council is responsible
> for maintaining the welfare of tribal members. According to its
> website the tribal council, through its various enterprises,
employs
> 900 people; that is almost half of the number which they list as
> tribal members (something around 2000, if I remember correctly.)
> Furthermore, as I understand it, the income from these enterprises
is
> to be disbursed to all the members of the tribe (even those who are
> not employed in the tribal enterprises), and it has been my
> experience that tribal enterprises (particularly gambling casinos)
> tend to do very well in the marketplace. So if the White Mesa
> community is starving, it is because the tribal council is not
> employing them and/or is not giving them their proportional share
of
> tribal income. If the tribal council says money (or employment!)
> cannot cross state lines, then they are simply lying.
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <cottondrop@>
> wrote:
> >
> > The tribal council may be a part of the problem if the federal
BIA
> > still dictates the tribal goverence, but the bigger problem is
with
> > the BIA and the federal government who have been stealing or
> > mismanging tribal resources including money owed
> > them.
> > As Russel Means says why do we have A federal Bureu of Indian
> > Affairs, we don't have a fedrral Bueau of Black affairs, of
Chinese
> > American affairs, of Anglo American affairs.--- In
> > [email protected], "kiddleddee" <kiddleddee@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Then the problem is with the tribal council! And your
> belligerent,
> > > condescending asshole attitude is really beginning to piss me
off!
> > >
> > > Forgive me Terry, if this is an ad hominem.
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "John Stroebel"
> > > <john.stroebel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gee, thanks for all that. What a waste of time, huh?
> > > >
> > > > You researched the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, which is in
> Colorado.
> > I
> > > worked on
> > > > the White Mesa Ute Reservation which is in UTAH south of
> > Blanding.
> > > Although
> > > > they sharethe same tribal government, White Mesa receives
> NOTHING
> > > in terms
> > > > of funding from the Ute Mountain Ute tribe because they
insist
> > that
> > > money
> > > > can not cross state lines.
> > > >
> > > > Clear now?
> > > >
> > > > White Mesa Ute Reservation in San Juan County Utah. They
> receive
> > > NOTHING
> > > > from the resourses of Ute Mountain in Colorado, which is 1
1/2
> > > hours away in
> > > > COLORADO.
> > > >
> > > > Better yet?
> > > >
> > > > Towaoc is in COLORADO. The Casio, COLORADO. The grazing, oil,
> > > > coal...COLORADO. The pottery, the tours of Sleeping Ute
> > > Mountain....yup
> > > > COLORADO. The Ute are split up into 4 reservations...Ignacio
> NM,
> > > Towoac
> > > > Colorado, Ft. Duchaine Utah (on the border of Wyoning and
> > Colorado)
> > > and
> > > > White Mesa THE PLACE I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
> > > >
> > > > We on the same page now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/26/06, kiddleddee <kiddleddee@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This from the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe
> > > > > (http://www.utemountainute.com/overview_statistics.htm):
> > > > >
> > > > > <excerpt>
> > > > >
> > > > > The tribal lands are on what's known as the Colorado
Plateau,
> a
> > > high
> > > > > desert area with deep canyons carved through the mesas.
This
> is
> > a
> > > > > harsh land and there are no cities to provide services for
the
> > > > > tribe. So the tribe must be self-sufficient by looking for
> other
> > > > > means of implementing progress and creating successful
> > enterprises
> > > > > to serve the needs of the tribal members as well as create
a
> > > healthy
> > > > > economy in which to live. The natural resources of the land
> > > provide
> > > > > the tribe income. These resources include oil and gas,
> grazing
> > > land
> > > > > for herds of tribal members, and land and water for the new
> > Farm &
> > > > > Ranch project south of the Sleeping Ute Mountain.
> > > > > After over 100 years of no water, the Colorado Ute Water
> > > Settlement
> > > > > Act of 1988 brought an end to years of legal battles for
the
> > > tribe's
> > > > > water rights. Under that agreement, the Ute Mountain Ute
Tribe
> > > > > brought the first piped drinking water to the reservation
and
> > > > > irrigation water the the Farm & Ranch project. This project
> was
> > > > > mandated within the Dolores Project (McPhee Dam).
> > > > > Today the tribe employs over 900 people in its enterprises
and
> > > > > departmental programs. These employees include tribal
> members,
> > > other
> > > > > Native Americans, and Anglos, thus making the tribe the
second
> > > > > largest employer in the Four Corners area.
> > > > > The per capita enrollment for the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe is
> > 1,968,
> > > > > as of January, 1999. The majority of the members live on the
> > > > > reservation in Towaoc with a smaller in the White Mesa
> > community.
> > > > > The tribal census shows the largest part of the membership
is
> > in
> > > the
> > > > > twenties and younger age group.
> > > > >
> > > > > <end excerpt>
> > > > >
> > > > > And there is this from the same website:
> > > > >
> > > > > <excerpt>
> > > > >
> > > > > The Ute Mountain Casino opened in September of 1992,
creating
> > 271
> > > > > new jobs for the tribe and other people of the Four Corners
> > area.
> > > At
> > > > > the opening, over 50% of the employees were Native
American.
> > Now,
> > > > > out of about 380 employees, 78% are Native Americans. When
the
> > > > > Casino opened that year, the Ute Mountain Gaming Commission
> was
> > > > > already in place. This Commission, mandated under the
Tribal
> > > Gaming
> > > > > ordinance of November 1991, is responsible for the complete
> > > > > regulation and control of gaming on all reservation lands
for
> > the
> > > > > Ute Mountain Ute Tribe. After expenses, the Casino revenues
> are
> > > > > allotted to the Tribal Programs and Operations, Education,
> > > Economic
> > > > > Development, and Social and Family programs.
> > > > > Tel: 1-970-565-8800 or 1-800-258-8007
> > > > >
> > > > > Sleeping Ute RV Park opened in April of 1994 within a short
> > > walking
> > > > > distance of the Casino. The 84 site park hosts full-service
> RV
> > > sites
> > > > > as well as tent and teepee areas. This tribal enterprise
was
> > > funded
> > > > > in part by a Bureau of Indian Affairs Business Development
> > Grant
> > > and
> > > > > in part by Economic Development funds.
> > > > > Tel: 1-970-565-6544 or 1-800-889-5072
> > > > > Ute Mountain Tribal Park sees visitors from all over the
> world
> > > both
> > > > > at their visitor's center and on tours. The Tribal Director
> and
> > > his
> > > > > staff show guests the wonders of the Pueblo culture and
tell
> > them
> > > of
> > > > > the Ute Mountain Ute history. Education plays an important
> role
> > in
> > > > > the park tour, whether it is a tourist group or students
from
> > > > > Colorado schools. The tribal park has a non-profit
foundation
> > set
> > > up
> > > > > with the support of the Ute Mountain Tribe and the Colorado
> > > > > Commission of Indian Affairs for ruins' stabilization. The
> Park
> > > > > Director and staff feels that a low impact type of tourism
> will
> > > > > protect the natural resources, preserve the ruins and
> > environment,
> > > > > yet give the visitor a quality experience while on the
lands
> of
> > > the
> > > > > Ute Mountain Ute Tribe. Tel: 1-970-565-3751 Ext. 282 or 1-
800-
> > 847-
> > > > > 5485
> > > > > Sleeping Ute Pottery Factory Outlet has been a tribal
> enterprise
> > > > > since 1970 and came under new management in 1992. The
Towaoc
> > > pottery
> > > > > outlet employs 24 people, 90% of whom are tribal members.
The
> > > White
> > > > > Mesa wholesale pottery plant averages 8-9 jobs and has been
in
> > > > > operation since 1994. The tribal pottery outlet produces
> > > > > approximately 50,000 pieces a year. Each piece is uniquely
> > > designed,
> > > > > painted, signed, ad sometimes carved by its artist. The
> factory
> > > > > outlet has a showroom that offers pottery to the resident
and
> > > > > traveling public. The new wholesale pottery catalog
> introduces a
> > > > > new of painted and carved red pottery, as well as the
> > traditional
> > > > > Sleeping Ute designs and unique pottery.
> > > > > Tel: 1-970-565-8548 or 1-800-896-8548
> > > > > Casino Shuttle. The shuttle serves a dual purpose
> transporting
> > > area
> > > > > visitors to and from the Casino and other facilities, and
> > > > > transporting tribal Casino employees from both Towaoc and
> > Cortez.
> > > > > The shuttle runs 24 hour a day.
> > > > > Tel: 1-970-565-8800
> > > > >
> > > > > <end excerpt>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> >
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> > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > >
> > > > It is time to do something about all this!
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
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