>
> If that is all you are wanting
> abnd not wanting to tap every taxpayer or lay a guilt trip on them I
> clearly owe you an
> apology.


It's OK Terry, it is a heated discussion. It is not the ideas that offend me
here....(not yours) it is the hardness of heart when money is concerned. You
seem to be a good hearted person. I hope we are square.

On 6/27/06, terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>    Ok I did the caps on purposed I was pissed for you saying I wanted
> those good people to go hungry for that you owe me an apolgy and it
> appears I may owe you one if all you are doing is calling for the
> government to live up to its contract. If that is all you are wanting
> abnd not wanting to tap every taxpayer or lay a guilt trip on them I
> clearly owe you an
> apology.
> If any of the others say the government should not live up to
> their contract then they are wrong although they would be right to
> say government programs are a piss poor way to pay a
> debt.
> You hear it from several of the big wigs elitest in the Slavery
> repreations movements calling for more nd more government programs
> instead of giving the victims heirs the money directly, of course the
> elitest want programs they are elitest snots who look down on their
> people and several are looking to line their own pockets not help
> black people.--- In 
> [email protected]<Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "John Stroebel"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hey pal, I am responding to remarks. Yours was ignored? Sorry.
> Guilt trip?
> > Why should I care one wit if you feel guilty? Your emotions do not
> change
> > this situation a bit.
> >
> > My replies were in response to strong suggestions that these people
> have
> > their aid cut off. They naively stated that the aid in itself was
> the
> > problem...as in, if your knee is shot out and that stops you from
> walking,
> > do not get it fixed, lop off the leg.
> >
> > Pay so much all America will feel the loss? Wow, that will be the
> day, won't
> > it? Pretty extreme. In fact, ridiculous. *Utterly* ridiculous. How
> did we go
> > from cut off their $400 a month (less than food stamps pays per
> person in
> > the rest of this country) to sacrifice enough to cause
> >
> >
> > > *
> > > >
> > > > EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN TAXPAYER POOR, MODEST,
> > > > > MIDDLE AND HIGH INCOMES THROUGH CORESIVE TAXES
> > > >
> > > > *
> >
> > ????
> >
> > GO back and read the first post, then come on back and rip me the
> new
> > one...but remember your caps lock in on first. Did I ever suggest
> anything
> > except to keep the contract they presently have and offer more
> educational
> > opportunities? If I did, show me.
> >
> > I have met a wall of 'Oh my, aid is bad bad bad and it should be
> stopped'.
> > When I informed that this would mean taking food from people who
> can not
> > even afford the simple necessities of life due to their placement
> in the
> > harshest place i have ever seen, I get the 'so what? it will be
> better than
> > AID!' speech. So keep the 'come off it' speech...it means zero to
> me what
> > you think. You want to be right? Go live there a year and see if
> you can
> > help out. It'll be an education for ya...THEN come on back and tell
> me how
> > wrong I am.
> >
> > YA know what troubles me about this theory? The 'fuck anyone who it
> hurts'
> > clause. You are talking human beings. Do any of YOU have trouble
> putting
> > food on the tables for YOUR 10 grandkids cause mommy and daddy drank
> > themselves dead, went to jail or skipped out?
> >
> > On 6/27/06, terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok man, come off of it, at least 3 people, one of them me has
> said
> > > the federal government has not lived up to it's to its agreement
> but
> > > you haved completely failed to give us credit for that by
> responding
> > > in a decent way ( well in fact you have totally ignored
> > > that).
> > > YES THE GOVERNMENT OWES THE INDIANS BIG TIME.DO YOU SEE WHAT I
> > > AM WRITING NOW? SAYING THAT HOW CAN THE DEBT BE PAID AS MUCH AS
> > > POSSIBLE WITHOUT TAPPING EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN TAXPAYER POOR,
> MODEST,
> > > MIDDLE AND HIGH INCOMES THROUGH CORESIVE TAXES THUS CREATING MORE
> > > INJUSTICE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT ARE DO YOU JUST WANT TO
> > > MAKE GUILT TRIP SPEECHES?--- In
> [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
> <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > > "John
> > >
> > > Stroebel" <john.stroebel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > but what are you wanting the average taxpayer or taxpayer of
> > > > > modest or little means or even the wealthy taxpayer who earned
> > > his or
> > > > > her money by honest non rent seeking means to do about it and
> why
> > > do
> > > > > you want them to pay up if that is what you are wanting,
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I *want?* You seem to miss the big picture here. It is what
> > > they are *
> > > > owed*. There is a legally binding contract between them and the
> > > Federal
> > > > Government in place, *period*. THese people have nothing, and
> you
> > > want to
> > > > take the food from them, too. Sorry. Your finely sharpened
> sence of
> > > > 'practicality' and opinions on right and wrong do not touch the
> > > fact that
> > > > this is *a legal contract*.
> > > >
> > > > If you have a problem with that, petition your federal reps.
> They
> > > will get
> > > > to screwing these people again real soon I am sure anyway.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>  
>



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