Ah, she calls me a liar. I'll try to get over that. Tell ya what Terry, let me ask you two questions:
Just who IS this mysterious entity that would provide the VISTA volunteers? Oh...of the $8400 paid out as stippend to the volunteers, 2/3 is repaid by White Mesa. The labor cost was cheep enough to begin with, but now you have a bill of $8400 a year for 40 to 60 hours average work byu a professional that now costs the government about $3,300. Less than the replacement fenders for a Humvee we send to Iraq. Second question: how would you do this differently, exactly? See, 'That sucks' is not enough for me to scrap a program that is the only one available to these folks. On 6/27/06, terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, I say some may have had a good experience being a Vista volunter > and they probably helped several people but the likelyhood is a lot > more people could have been helped if it had not been a government > program. I'm sure John is honest in his work and his intentions but > he is being less than honest in most of the discussion on this > thread.--- In [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>, > "steven linnabary" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Stroebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > That is part of what is being done there now. Oh, no, I finished > a second > > > year and moved on to teach on the Wind RIver Reservation in > Wyoming. > > > This article began with a post I was sharing...showing a business > success > > on > > > this reservation. I showed an article on how VISTAS found a way > to assist > > > the Ute and Navajo children in San Juan County with sales of home > made > > candy > > > over the Internet. The success was so surprising that the parents > are now > > > involved. > > > > > > > I was a part of VISTA back in '82-'83. I did not have the good > VISTA > > experience you did, though my project was gratifying. My problem > was that > > VISTA required written reports, and that VISTA really did not seem > to care > > whether the project was successful or not. As far as VISTA was > concerned, > > as long as the weekly reports were timely, the project was > successful. As > > far as I was concerned, the reports were far too time consuming > unless I > > what I wrote was vague and contained a lot of obtuse verbiage. > > > > Accurate reports were impossible because I was in charge of > a "Gleaning > > Program" for local farms at the local food bank. Of course this was > > neccessarily seasonal, and I found that there is actually very > little food > > (commercially) grown in Ohio for human consumption. The rest of > the time I > > was helping out around the food bank, which actually took up nearly > all my > > time. The food bank was something that I believed in, afterall, it > wasn't > > government funded. > > > > One good experience was at the beginning of my service, I was > required to > > sign a proclamation to defend America from all enemies, foriegn and > > domestic. I scratched out America, US and other government > references and > > replaced them with "people of the world" or some such. I found out > several > > years later that the local director of VISTA always showed this > signed > > statement (sans my signature, I hope) to new recruits during > orientation as > > to what they were allowed to do if they had a problem with the oath. > > > > > That is what we do there...we need to first begin with education. > A person > > > who can not read or spell can not access the Internet, and this > is one > > major > > > way to find a market for their products. I set up a business > council to > > help > > > Ute adults with assistance with business decisions. > > > > > > > Here again, I found that the welfare mentality caused people to not > care or > > work toward their own welfare. This was the era of free government > cheese > > handouts. People would stand in line for several hours for a 5 > pound block > > of cheese (or fight to get to the front of the line (police were > omnipresent > > during these handouts). Sad, really. > > > > And the volunteers I managed to find for the project never came > from the > > local food pantries, but from church groups and other civic > organizations. > > > > PEACE > > Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer > > Franklin County Libertarian Party > > (614) 891-8841 > > P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 > > > > "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent > revolution > > inevitable" John F. 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