Too many people reacted negatively to the removial of the platform and having a lack of information on why things happened, relied on assumptions to create a conspiracy.
A recent example on the general population was the Eon8.org website which was deliberately vague as to its purpose. http://www.eon8.com/deployed21b.php It also didn't help that certain other political grouplists spun the issue and a couple members forwarded the spin this way. -- John O. Jon Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It amazes me how some members of this list cling to the proposition that the deletion of most of the Platform was an act of deliberation. It was not a conspiracy. There was no plan. It was just a cockup. It resulted from these simple factors: 1. Conference organizers neglected to print copies of the Platform and distribute them with the conference packet. They explained that they expected attendees to just download and print the Platform from the lp.org website. That was expecting too much of them. 2. Attendees weren't going to vote for what they didn't have in writing in their hands. 3. The Platform Committee didn't really get down to work until the members actually arrived at the meeting two days before the convention, and didn't allow enough time to agree of a list of planks to recommend retaining. They got bogged down on consolidating planks. The result of that work was presented to the conference and approved, because the members could read it on the screen. But there wasn't time to print or distribute copies of anything. 4. Left with that, the majority of attendees voted not the retain most of the remaining planks. I was one who so voted, because there was two hours set aside on the agenda ("orders of the day") at the end of Sunday to introduce any planks that needed to go back in. Many people had those planks prepared and submitted them to the Secretary for presentation in numbered order. 5. Before we could get to those planks, one member (also a member of the Platform Committee), Jim Duensing of Nevada, apparently for no other reason than that he was pissed off at a motion just made and defeated by Aaron Starr of California, moved to adjourn, and as a motion to adjourn is not debatable, and the attendees were tired and didn't know what was about to be introduced, other than stuff that was just going to take up a lot of time, voted to adjourn. 6. Immediately afterward there was a lot of remorse about the adjournment. Jim Duensing admitted to me he screwed up. A lot of the attendees, when I explained what was about to be introduced, admitted if they had known they would not have voted to adjourn. 7. It simply never occurred to most of the attendees how all this would be misconstrued by the larger membership. Libertarians may include a lot of computer professionals, but most are not adept at complex systems analysis or long-term impact analysis. Like the public generally, they tend to be impulsive and prefer not to think deeply about what they are doing, or to spend a lot of effort preparing for anything. 8. So we make mistakes, and hopefully learn from it. We can do better in 2008 if we learn from this and don't engage in ridiculous accusations. -- Jon ---------------------------------------------------------- Constitution Society 7793 Burnet Road #37, Austin, TX 78757 512/374-9585 www.constitution.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------- . --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
