> How about sshd for USS, IBM?

There is a port; it's more than a little fragile, though.

> Back on the topic at hand, why not use something like "site
> submit" for incoming jobs, and LPR/LPD printing for output
> coming back?  You can set up destinations via NPF (or it's
> successor) on zOS.

Then we're back to automating FTP, and LPR/LPD don't support forms well,
or a number of other useful printing features. It's not that there
aren't other ways to do this, it's that the other ways are poorly
integrated and really feel like what they are: afterthoughts grudgingly
bolted on the side to make it work, rather than doing the extra work to
make the integration seamless.

> What is real NJE going to buy you?  You can't RUN the jobs on
> the Linux node.

Here's a few I can think of:

Access to superior (IMHO) interactive editing environments
Access to industry standard source code management tools
Unattended operation of file transfers
Automated queuing and retry if destination host unavailble
Implied sequencing of file transfers
multifile parallel transfer support (possible with gridftp, but z/OS
doesn't speak gridftp yet w/o my Globus port)
Single auditing point for information transfer.
Single connection between hosts (easier on FWs)
TCPNJE is trivially SSL-wrappable
Transparent output routing from batch (can be done with NPF, but w/o
full forms processing capability)
etc...

Linux/Solaris/AIX/HPUX and even the Windows goons are already moving
past LPR/LPD and SMB to IPP. Time for VM and z/OS to do the same.
Easiest way to do that: put IPP support in RSCS and use NJE from z/OS
and VM to deliver the goods to RSCS or a Linux guest. Zero mods on z/OS,
some work on VM or Linux, everybody wins. We also need TCPNJE support on
z/OS.

I argued this back on the VMESA-L mailing list a while back: if
channel-attached printing is really dying off, then it's time to finish
the job on integrating printing and output management into RSCS and make
it the de facto output manager for VM. PRINT and friends need to start
being cognizant of that fact. It's the right thing to do.

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