> > The real cool thing of Linux is TCP/IP, other than that have lots lots
> > lots of problems, first of all IRQ sharing and resource sharing. New
> > kernels fix things and broke others.
>
> I respect your opinion, but the cool thing of Linux for me, and lots of
> people, is that it is UNIX, and UNIX has proved to be well designed, and a
> joy to use to those who appreciate it (no, I am not talking Joe Random
> Desktop User).

Well, UNIX was a good command line OS, but now is time is over. We all need 
gui to simplify our work, and it's not really important if it's 
administrative work or office work, or better multimedia work.

> > I'm interested in Linux especially BECOUSE IS FREE, so I NOT PAY for it
> > and I can accept to lost lots of time play with it: it's my choice. Now I
> > know Linux it well, so I spend less time than others...
>
> Again, this is your choice, but consider that this reason is not why it is
> developed.

Well, I think it was originally developed to make Linus Torvalds printers 
working... No other seriuous reasons. Linus used to think Unix was too much 
for his little job, and this is the way Linux was born. And it still pay for 
it. Also Linus still not pay his bills with Linux... :-)))

> So, if you complain to developers, remember that they are not
> writing it to make available a non-payed operating system.

No, I not complain with them, becouse u can't complain for something that 
someone give yourself for free. Read the Dag Brattli message where he say he 
finally made is IrDA stack working on a old Dell Inspiron 4000: he is one of 
the IrDA developers and he have the same problem as myself to make things 
working on one of the best brand copmputers in this world!

This is becouse I can't resist when someone ask him to port Linux IrDA stack 
under Windows becouse Windows stack is "weak" - like he say... I think also 
Brattli can laugh of it... He do some fun programming and Microsoft have 100 
professional developers working on IrDA stack and someone say Windows IrDA 
stack is weak... LOL LOL LOL.

This is becouse Linux is still a big pain for many people, complicated, buggy 
and full of problems no one - like Brattli - is really interested to 
generally solving. No one pay him to do it, so why do he have to solve IrDA 
stack Linux problems? And I not complain for it at all. It's free, so it can 
be a pain. My choice to use it...

But I simply laugh when people speak bad about Windows, becouse that is a 
real professional OS, and Microsoft try to make it better and better becouse 
customers pay for it. We can say NT/2000/XP have lots of Unix related code: 
yep it's true, but it's more user friendly, more solid, more well supported, 
more pleasure to use it.

Obviously it's expensave, but what is it free in this life? I think the 
famous statement: more u pay more u have or something like that is completely 
true. Linux is completely free so it's a pain in the ass... LOL

Come on, be honest, how many times every person that really use a pc for 
serious job think like that?

> Anyone of them
> may have it�s reasons, but I can garantee that price is not the main
> motive

I think it is: who wanna use it if Linux have a price? When u buy a complete 
distros u pretend just simply work a bit... But often is not like that...

Just an example: main distros in this days try to convince users to log on on 
theyre brand new system not as root users. So desktops are incomplete for 
root users and thats ok, I think... But, log on as a user and try to use - I 
say - a mean thing like a CD-R drive. Linux start to complain u are not a 
root user; so u SUID the cdrecord apps, but they complain about libraries...

LOL, that's simply laughable. In Windows u make a backup copy of a cd in a 
moment, in linux u have to lost your whole day, and finally u can use you 
CD-R but just if you are a trained person... LOL LOL LOL

This is becouse I call Linuix a real pain in the ass and I use it becouse I 
like to learn things and, well, when I'm really tired I have my good friendly 
professional Windows to do serious things (like recording cd's, make movies, 
working on DTP apps and stuff).

> Although it is
> many times "amateur" (from "love") it is considered professional by many
> people/companies (like IBM, Microsoft, SGI, etc).

Yep, as I stated Linux have a great TCP/IP with all that means. This is 
becouse IBM use it as an alternative on his servers.

Thats all and that's the truth.


Regards

Massimo


PS: this is also becouse a great company like Dell have stopped to support 
Linux: they say it was a nightmare, also using Red Hat, a respectable good 
distro, maybe the only really serious and completely professional.
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