Linux-Misc Digest #771, Volume #18 Tue, 26 Jan 99 20:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (Andy Mulhearn)
Re: fax permission problems (Rob Clark)
Re: Are we there yet? 2.2.0 When? (David Bubar)
Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!! (Bill Unruh)
2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch ("Dr. Greanthumb")
Re: startx not found (Bill Unruh)
Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!! (Bill Unruh)
Re: /root bloated, taking up all space on root partition - why? (Mark Paulus)
Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!! ("Jeremy Ellman")
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Q] PC Card Hard Drives for Linux? ("Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado")
Re: Free Fortran90 + Parallel? (M Sweger)
color corrections on postscript files (Frank Stulle)
Re: (Symbolic) Links (Johan Kullstam)
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me (David Kirkpatrick)
Loading onto SPARCS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dual PII with Linux ? (Sasa Ostrouska)
Re: Getting the local IP addess after ifup ppp0 (Bjoern Frantzen)
Re: Apache with ASP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Allegro on Linux (Jeff Avallone)
why are linux x apps so slow? (Frederick Senn)
SiS 5582 and Linux ("Philippe Moulard")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Mulhearn)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 26 Jan 1999 22:37:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Frost wrote:
>> This brings up an interesting question to me. We hear many "people"
>> complain that the average user couldn't install linux. It's also my
>> experience that the average person can't install windows. I think if
>> people were given a pre-installed Linux system relatively tuned to their
>> system (no need to do the tiny fine-tuning that only a "power-user"
>> would need) and a basic manual describing beginner commands (things like
>> ls, mount, cd, etc) most people would be able to get by as well as they
>> do in windoze.
>
>It's funny you should mention that. I've taught a lot of new people how to use
>UNIX and Windows and I don't see much difference in the learning curve.
>
>The funny thing is that graphical systems have become even harder to use than
>CLI systems in recent years -- there are just so many gestures you have to
>learn to get things done, and no way to discover them without a manual, and
>nobody ships manuals any more.
>
This is an interesting comment and one with which I can't help but agree. I
had to show one of the project managers where I work how to create entries
in a Notes Discussion database. This is clearly not rocket science and
Notes is not hard to use but an otherwise competent and intelligent PM had
to be shown how to do it.
Andy
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Subject: Re: fax permission problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:37:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Stroom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>-rw-rw---- 1 bin lp 107 Dec 30 22:45 cfA031Aa02984
>
>faxlpr does not have the appropriate permission, fails to open the file,
>hence the fax submission fails.
What are the permissions on /var/spool/fax? (Should be a+rwx)
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: David Bubar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are we there yet? 2.2.0 When?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:34:13 -0500
David Bubar wrote:
>
> grinder wrote:
> >
> > I'm fairly new to linux, 8 months or so experience. I've tried some of
> > the dev kernels and they seem to work great (except for a vm quirk or
> > two) especially the 2.2.0pre version.
> > Is there a naming custom for pre versions that indicates how close the
> > release version might be?
> > Anyone know how soon 2.2.0 not pre might appear?
>
> Today.... barring anything so embarrasing that linus would have to hide
> his face in a paper bag for a month.
> --
It was announced lastnight around 9pm CST.
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David Bubar http://www.albany.net/~bubar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LTI http://www.ltionline.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:05:31 GMT
In <78lfiv$444$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jeremy Ellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>I've finally (after several weeks fixed this one) thanks to some kind soul.
>It seems that Linux (or at least Red Hat 5.1) uses the same interrupts for
>/dev/cua0 (DOS COM1) typically your mouse,
>and /dev/cua2 (COM3 -- usually the modem).
This is a harware issue, and has nothing to do with Linux.
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From: "Dr. Greanthumb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:25:32 +0100
Because i get no sound with 2.2.0 (real final version, not pre9;-) i used
the ess...-patch with "patch -p1 ..." but i still get no sound. I tried to
compile the sound module into the kernel, but compilation stopped, compiling
as a module did work, but there�s no sound on my SB 16 (ISA). Did i use a
wrong syntax with the patch command ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: startx not found
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:19:49 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vito DeFilippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Anyway, I recently reinstalled Redhat 5.1, and now startx doesn't seem
>to want to work. Bash reports "command not found". If I switch shells
>(using "csh") than it works. Why would one shell find the command and
Path. The two shells have different paths.
mKe sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path
(set probably in .bashrc)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:02:52 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Tin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have tried and tried to connect to AT&T worldnet with pppd.
>I cant even conect once!!!!
>For one thing, my modem doesnt even dial. What is the directory in /dev
>if my modem is setup on com4???
/dev/ttyS3
>What is the proper way to login using CHAP????
>What is the proper command line to use with PPPD???
I will mail you my short paper on setting up ppp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Paulus)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /root bloated, taking up all space on root partition - why?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:29:13 GMT
When this happens, are you doing an 'ls -al'? This will show
you ALL the files, including any .files (normally hidden).
If you want to find which directory is going overboard,
then go to / (cd /) and do 'du -s ./* | sort -n'. Your "big"
directories will sort out at the bottom. Then you can
move on down this list (cd <big directory), repeating the
'du -s...' and 'ls -al' commands, until you find what you think
to be the offender.
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:20:15, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have RedHat 5.2 running on a PC with 96MB and a 266 Celeron (o/c'd
> to 333), currently using the 2.2.0pre8 kernel. My problem is that,
> whilst logged in as root (I know!), something caused my /root directory
> to bloat, taking up *all* available space on my root partition. I
> checked the disk space used with du, and the total as reported (around
> about 150MB) did not correspond to the total of the listed file sizes
> (roughly 20MB).
>
> I managed to fix the problem, simply by copying all the important files
> to /usr/root, then deleting and replacing /root. (At one point, when I
> tried copying everything across to /usr, it starated copying the whole
> 150MB). My question is, why should this have happened, and how can it be
> prevented? It happened once before, I *think* using RH5.2, but the
> kernel would've been 2.0.35 or .36, the Celeron running at 266, and only
> 32 meg of RAM installed; that time, I just reinstalled...
>
> Tim
>
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From: "Jeremy Ellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Please HELP!!! PPPD is driving me mad!!!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:20:42 -0000
Todd Schrubb wrote in message <01be4966$c432ada0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Make that two!
>
>I seem to be having the same problem... minicom will dial my modem, but
>connects at an unbelievably slow rate. The connection times out before I
>can even get to the login prompts. Additionally I can't get pppd or chap
>to dial out using the ppp-on script.
>
[snip]
I've finally (after several weeks fixed this one) thanks to some kind soul.
It seems that Linux (or at least Red Hat 5.1) uses the same interrupts for
/dev/cua0 (DOS COM1) typically your mouse,
and /dev/cua2 (COM3 -- usually the modem).
The way to check this is by using SETSERIAL. This will both report and
change the irq used. If this is your problem
you need to find an unused interrupt and use this for the modem.
Jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:15:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: system (no need to do the tiny fine-tuning that only a "power-user"
: would need) and a basic manual describing beginner commands (things like
: ls, mount, cd, etc) most people would be able to get by as well as they
: do in windoze.
Why hold them to a different standard? With autofs you can easily
setup a Linux box to emulate a Windows one.. change into the directory and
it'll mount the CD automatically, leave it and after a timeout (5 seconds?)
it'll auto unmount it and you can eject it without ever knowing the details
of how it works. With KDE you could set it up so that you could click on
a Netscape icon, it'll launch some custom app that configures your dialup
networking for you, and then launches Netscape and then removes the part
of the script that launches the configuration so the next time clicking on
netscape will just launch netscape (ala "The Internet" in Win95). Have
it come with Applixware or Staroffice installed, etc. I personally hate
KDE but it's excellent for newbies. They never need even know the command
line exists!
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:14:22 -0700
From: "Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: [Q] PC Card Hard Drives for Linux?
Have you considered replacing your internal drive with
a larger drive? Less of a problem in the long run.
Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah wrote:
>
> Is there any PCMCIA type hard drive that supports Linux out there? My
> laptop is running out of its 1.4GB internal IDE hard drive. Thanks for any
> tips.
--
Ben Goble Lakewood, Colorado USA
bgoble at uswest dot net bgoble at nyx dot net
A Stranger and a Pilgrim on the Earth
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Free Fortran90 + Parallel?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:00:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
M Sweger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: http://www.fortran.com/fortran and select free s/w
: Ratfor
: http://ww.sepwww.standford.edu/sep/prof
The above link is http://sepwww.stanford.edu/sep/prof
This link is off of the www.fortran.com/fortran/free.html list.
: --
: Mike,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Mike,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Frank Stulle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: color corrections on postscript files
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:06:26 +0100
I have to do some color corrections on PS files (e.g. less contrast,
more red ...) on a LINUX computer.
I don�t want to do this manually (i.e. converting to another format,
loading program, doing changes, converting back), this should be done
automaticly by starting a script (program, ...). Perhaps this works even
without converting. But I need a graphics program that can work from
comand line and do the things i want without me doing it.
Frank Stulle
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Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:55:19 -0500
Stefan Davids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > - hardlinks do not work for directories, softlinks do
> >
> > this is simply not true. hardlinks *do* work for directories.
> > furthermore, *every* directory has at least two hardlinks.
>
> I don't think this is what he means. I read it as making a hardlink
> to a directory. ie:
>
> [root@hopf /tmp]# mkdir stuff
> [root@hopf /tmp]# ls -l
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Jan 26 19:56 stuff
^
look two hardlinks!
> [root@hopf /tmp]# ln stuff otherstuff
> ln: stuff: hard link not allowed for directory
>
> Stefan
common operations create more directory hardlinks. consider mkdir, it
makes lots of hardlinks.
ln has some safety mechanisms since directory hardlinks can be bad
news if not done right. you can create filesystem loops and spin off
unreachable file system enclaves.
from the ln man page options section i see this
-d, -F, --directory
Allow the super-user to make hard links to directo-
ries.
ln tries to save you from yourself, but is happy to comply if you insist.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:49:36 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Generic info for RH 5.2. Assumption: you installed PPP.
===================================================================
RH puts ppp scripts in /usr/doc/ppp-2.3.5
Copy ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer, options to /etc/ppp.
===================================================================
Modify ppp-on:
TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT, PASSWORD
==================================================================
For exec command. put in correct device probably
cua1, modem speed
===================================================================
Edit /etc/resolv.conf and put in ISP nameserver
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
You usually get two from your isp.
====================================================================
execute ppp-on & and monitor logs with
tail -f /var/log/messages.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OR:
Control Pannel: Modem configuration. Select
correct device. (used in ppp-on script)
===================================================================
Network Configurator: Routing: Defaults blank
PPP0 will use this:
===================================================================
Network Configurator: Names: insert ISP
nameserver addresses.
===================================================================
System Configurator: PPP/SLIP/PLIP: Configurations, Add
Fill in Hardware, Communication. Assumes PAP not
required - If things do not work check with ISP.
==================================================================
Save quit. Verify /etc/resolv.conf has your ISP
addresses.
==================================================================
The linuxconf sets up most things but does not
setup the ppp-on script - that must be done by hand.
==================================================================
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Giovanni Chierico
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Hi everybody, I've been trying to set up a PPP connection,
> ]but it doesn't work.
> ]This is how it goes:
> ]I use EZPPP to connnect, it dials the number, sends the right login and
> ]password, the server starts the ppp connection ( i see all those symbols
> ]like {{())
>
> Where do you see those? You should not see them-- they should be private
> conversations between the two ppps.
> ]ping with 195.223.189.119 works fine while ping with 151.99.104.178
> ]doesn't work at all!!!
>
> If ping works you have a connection!!. Now try
> ping 137.82.1.1
> say.
> If that works, try ping hub.ubc.ca
> If that does not work while the former does, you do not have a proper
> name server set up. Find out what your ISPs nameserver is. Phone them,
> and ask.
>
> ]and this is the /etc/resolv.conf:
> ]search crown-net.com
>
> Why this line? This is the domain which is tagged to end of any address
> with fewer than one dot in in befor name lookup occurs.
>
> ]nameserver 151.99.104.178
>
> If you cannot ping the nameserver by number, it will NEVER work as a
> nameserver. Find out the right number. Do not guess.
>
> ]I really don't know about the nameserver, my ISP never gave me that number.
> ]I figured out that was the server number because it's the one that always comes
> ]out
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Loading onto SPARCS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:00:04 GMT
Hi,
I'm unsure how to approach a problem. I have currently been given two
older SPARCstations (2.0). They both have Solaris on them, but from the
looks of it, the systems have been pretty well scrapped and aren't
really in
working order.
I wish to install Red Hat Linux 5.2 on them. What is the
best way to do this.
I currently have a PC with an old version of Red Hat
linux on it, but plan
to move to 5.2 in the next few days. Should I use my
PC to load the new
OS on the SPARC's or is there an easier way? Which ever
option I should
take. A point in the direction of some GOOD documentation
would
be very much appreciated! I am new to networking, and if this is the
option
I should take, I would need to be given a clear idea of how to
proceed.
Then again, if it's all too hard, maybe I should just load Solaris
back onto
them, and stick to using my PC for Linux.
Thanks heaps for any
useful information ....
Regards,
James.
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From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual PII with Linux ?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:00:52 +0100
Hi to everybody !
Can somone tell me how do i know if Linux is using the first or
the second processor or both ? Is there a good utility like xosview to
see separate CPU's?
Thanks Sasa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjoern Frantzen)
Subject: Re: Getting the local IP addess after ifup ppp0
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:46:24 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GeekGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One more small question. I would like to upload my local IP addess to
>a web site whenever the connection is re-established. Then I can
>telnet in from work, or set up an unreliable web server, etc. ;)
[...]
Search for ip-up in the manual page for pppd. pppd starts a script ip-up if
it exist with among other stuff the ip-address of the device.
--
Bjoern Frantzen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apache with ASP
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:45:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 6 Jan 1999 16:18:59 -0800,
> Sam E. Trenholme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Nothing as far as I know. However one of my clients wants to use ASP.
> >
> >Looks like, until chilisoft makes a Linux port, you will have to either
> >see if the ASP stuff can be made in to CGI-BINs, or use a non-Linux
> >solution.
> >
>
> PHP is a viable alternative to ASP - it offers the same functionality. I have
> even seen tools to translate ASP to PHP, lately.
>
> - Vegard
>
If you're interested in running ASP projects on Apache, I'm
working on a program that converts ASP pages into PHP (asp2php):
http://www.inlink.com/~naken/asp2php/
It's still in the works right now, altho I converted a couple
pages the other day that used to hit an Access database and now
run in PHP hitting a MySQL database.
If you try it, let me know how it goes, I want this to be
able to convert pages with little to no changes, but I'm
not getting any feedback from people testing it.
-Michael Kohn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.inlink.com/~naken/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Avallone)
Subject: Allegro on Linux
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:53:33 GMT
has anyone had any success compiling Shawn Hargreaves graphics/sound library
Allegro in Linux...is it possible?
I've been working with it all night, and keep getting the error:
Your DJGPP environment variable is not set correctly! It should
point to the djgpp.env file: see the djgpp readme.1st for details.
This isn't very helpful considering the Linux uses GNU C/C++, and DJGPP is the
dos port of it...
I've pretty much decided to give up and hand it over to the experts :)
Thanks in advance for any help
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick Senn)
Subject: why are linux x apps so slow?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:52:49 GMT
linux counts as a fast and reliable os.
samba 2.0 claims to be the fastest smb package out there.
I don't doubt this a single instant.
yet, why are netscape or wordperfect behaving so slowly on my pentium
200mhz compared to their windows versions?
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From: "Philippe Moulard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SiS 5582 and Linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:50:25 +0100
Hello,
I'm looking for a linux driver for SiS 5582 chip.
Can somebody help me please ???
Thanks in advance
Best regards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:32:02 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Matthias Warkus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: <snicker> At least, they tell you the shape of your country in Germany, and
: they give you a free copy of the Constitution. And you don't need to pledge
: allegiance to a stupid *flag* - we ditched that kind of silliness after 1945.
And we never had that kind of silliness in the first place...
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