Linux-Misc Digest #771, Volume #24 Sat, 10 Jun 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: LINUX/WIN98SE internet (Akira Yamanita)
Re: KPPP problem (Rick)
how to reboot when it won't, samba problems too (Anthony Ewell)
Re: Can't start KDE as non-root (jesper)
Re: Anyone connecting linux with psn.net? (Bob Martin)
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
ADSL and PPP over Ethernet (Randy Cooper)
Re: winmodem SupraExpress 56i Diamond ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: mounting and multimedia configuration (Dances With Crows)
kernel panic, no init found (David Grogan)
Re: democracy? ("Mike")
Re: kernel panic, no init found (Hal Burgiss)
ISO image (Dmitri V)
Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked? (Bob Martin)
Re: kernel panic, no init found (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Only root can receive email ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: kernel panic, no init found (Vilmos Soti)
Re: ISO image (Vilmos Soti)
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX/WIN98SE internet
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:17:25 GMT
Scott Jack wrote:
>
> right now, i have a linux machine and a win98se machine networked together
> (meaning i can ping each other, ftp from win to linux). my win comp is my
> connection to the internet via cable (cable company doesn't support linux
> connections). is there any way or program that would let my linux comp
> see the internet connection?
>
> please, no "use you linux as your connection" posts, my cable provider
> doesn't support that, only Mac and winblows.
Win98SE has ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). Go to the Network
Properties and add the service if it's not there by default. It
also provides DHCP. If you set the IP manually on the Linux box,
set the default route on the Linux box to the Internal interface
of the Win98 machine.
My provider doesn't support Linux either. Just hook it up to
a Windows machine when calling tech support.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:29:59 -0400
Patricia wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Rick wrote:
> >When I try to connect to my ISP using KPPP, I get a timeout error saying
> >the connection timed out waiting for ppp to come up. But, I can connect
> >using Uernet/netcfg. Anyoane have any ideas?
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >--
> >Rick
> >To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
> Rick
> change the settings in line termination (->setup -> device)
> increase the PPPD time-out (-> setup -> ppp)
> uncheck use lock file ( -> setup -> device)
>
> --
> Good Luck
> Patricia
> ICQ 69588792
None of these helped. I cant seem to get kppp going from root or my user
account, the connection will timeout waiting for ppp.
--
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:26:37 -0700
From: Anthony Ewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: how to reboot when it won't, samba problems too
Hi,
I am running a Red Hat 6.0, Samba 2.0.4-7 file server. I am
also running bind, dhcpd, pop3 and sendmail, routed, ipchains
and pppd.
When I added a second ethernet card (both cards are Intel 21143 based
Kingston KNE100TX using tulip.c-v0.91E compiled in), and fired up
"routed", I got the following condition:
After about two days, the clients (NTw 4) on the second nic stop
accessing Samba. (Mind you I can telnet from one of these failed
NT computers, through both nic's on the server, into any
of the print servers on other other leg of the network. As well as
ping anyone anywhere on the network. It is only Samba that doesn't
work.) They don't all go down at once either, it takes about 30 minutes
or so to migrate around to all the users on the second (new) leg.
The first leg keeps working through all of this!
I get the following error message in one of the second leg's
/var/log/samba-log.xxx log file when she stop being able to browse
or connect to samba:
[2000/06/05 08:48:03, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(751)
Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. Exiting
[2000/06/05 08:48:24, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket_data(537)
write_socket_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
I do not get any other error messages (or at least any I can find).
And, if to make matter worse. When all of the clients on the second
nic stop working with samba, the server's console freezes up.
This forces me to attempt a shutdown via telnet.
But, that doesn't work either. When I run "shutdown -r now"
or just plain "halt", I get the message that the server is going down
and I go back to the prompt. Nothing happens; the telnet connection
doesn't even get broken. The same thing happens when I
try to shutdown from the console, if I manage to get to it
before it freezes.
I really, REALLY hate flipping power off to reset a Linux server.
(I have had to "Windows" jury rig it by having crond reboot every
morning at 3 AM.)
Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? And how do I reboot
when it ignores me?
Many, Many thanks,
--Tony
aewell @ gbis dot com (remove the spaces and replace the "dot" with ".")
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From: jesper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't start KDE as non-root
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:30:10 GMT
The perms. ogf /tmp were wrong. Now it works .:/90
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Anyone connecting linux with psn.net?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:34:49 -0500
Ramin Sina wrote:
>
> I asked psn.net sales representative if they support linux. They said
> yes. I got very excited and in disbelief asked again "you do?" They
> again said "yes we do". I signed up immediately and then they
> transferrerd me to the techsupport for installation. The tech support on
> the other hand was emphatic that they don't support linux but can only
> give me the DNS number and access numbers to dialup.
>
> Anyway, Does anyone know what /etc/ppp files I need and what must they
> contain (eg. chatscripts, etc.) The techsupport won't help me with that.
>
They all say they don't support linux. Assuming you have a account and
password, the dialup number is all you need. Check the PPP howto it will
show you how to setup the connection. You put the DNS info in
/etc/resolv.conf
--
Bob Martin
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:47:58 -0500
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:51:43 -0500, "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+wrote:
+
+ >On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ >
+ >+ On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:35:40 GMT, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ >+
+ >+ >On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ >+ >
+ >+ >> On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:23:07 GMT, "Toaster Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ >+ >>
+ >+ >> >I have read a few comparision of Intel vs. RISC processor and they tend to
+ >+ >> >come up the same. For integer instructions on similar MHZ CPUs Intel and
+ >+ >> >RISC are usually even. Where Intel loses big is floating point
+ >+ >> >instructions, RISC runs circles around Intel on floating point.
+ >+ >>
+ >+ >> It depends on what you are doing, and which RISC. The shipping 300MHz
+ >+ >> MIPS parts, 450MHz UltraSPARC IIs and the PowerPCs are all slower than
+ >+ >> the 1GHz Pentium III for the SPECfp95 and SPECfp2000 tasks, and even
+ >+ >> the 440MHz 8600 PA-RISC part in the N4000 is slower on SPECfp2000_base.
+ >+ >
+ >+ >I'll not argue with this, but note that the original poster said
+ >+ >"... on similar MHZ CPUs ...". I wouldn't call 450 MHz "similar" to
+ >+ >1 GHz at all: it's more than double!
+ >+ >
+ >+ >I don't know, but how does Intel @ 450 MHz compare to the other processors
+ >+ >AT THE SAME CLOCK RATE? My guess would be similar integer performance,
+ >+ >and worse FP performance.
+ >+
+ >+ The statement "RISC runs circles around Intel on floating point"
+ >+ wasnt qualified. As for "the same clock rate", a quick scan of my
+ >+ Dell catalog reveals no desktop systems available at speeds as
+ >+ slow as 450MHz.. To me that says its a moot point to compare
+ >+ at the same clock rate when Suns fastest processors dont clock
+ >+ at as fast as Dells slowest desktops ($799 buys a fully configured
+ >+ Dell 667MHz PIII system with a monitor and fast ethernet adapter,
+ >+ compared to $5,500 for the 450MHz UltraSPARC II module (computer,
+ >+ memory, disk, monitor and software sold seperately. Ack.))
+ >
+ >Yes, but try accessing over 4G of real memory on an Intel processor
+ >with either Windows or Linux ( as it stands now ). You cannot.
+ >And as for clock speed, what does that mean really? CPU speed is
+ >not going to be your bottle-neck. I would be concerned more about
+ >bus speed, in which yes, SPARC's run circles around most Intels.
+ >SPARC's will run circles around Intel machines, they are designed
+ >to.
+
+ Again, the STREAMS numbers:
+
+ (from http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/standard/Bandwidth.html)
+
+ Sun_Ultra60-360 1 355.2 343.8 311.1 358.6
+ Intel_820_600B 1 379.2 386.4 448.5 448.4
+ Intel_440BX_600 1 342.2 340.2 412.0 409.2
Whoaa, those have gotta be outdated. You can get up to 1.8G memory
throughput on the Ultra80.
+ The UPA bus on the Ultra60 at 360MHz is 120MHz, which I believe is
+ the fastest interface on the workstations and workgroup servers.
Nope SUN Ultra 80 with 1 450Mhz UltraSPARC-II CPU, which has
4MB cache would be quite a bit faster. You can put 4G RAM
in the machine, but with a 64 bit CPU, it can potentially
address much more than that. The I/O interface can support
up to 40MB per sec.
+ Given that it doesnt keep up with a mere 600MHz Pentium III on
+ the slower 820 (which has half the theoretical bandwidth of the
+ 840) I wouldnt be making blanket statements about bandwidth in
+ all product catagories. Also, none of the workstations or the
+ workgroup servers can take more than 4GB of real memory, so in
+ this catagory, which represents the vast majority of the market
+ (everything from $50,000 on down) your comments on addressing
+ more than 4GB of RAM is moot in this segment.
Moot? Really, you are comparing Sun workstations with Intel servers,
that dont even (yet) support a 64-bit architecture.
Here are some points from Sun:
Exceptional throughput.
- UPA provides a crossbar-oriented interconnection establishing a
144-bit wide, ECC-protected data path to the CPU
- Clocked at up to 112 MHz, the UPA crossbar gives a peak throughput of
1.8 GB per second (models with 450-MHz processor)
- Memory subsystem offers a 576-bit-wide memory path
- Architecture allows memory to be installed in fours to take advantage
of 576-bit-wide memory path
- UltraSCSI is integrated on the motherboard
- A second UltraSCSI channel is available, allowing external devices to
be connected to separately, further improving I/O throughput
+ When you want faster graphics than their custom 3D cards on
+ the UPA bus, you can upgrade to the faster Sun Expert3D based
+ on a PC graphics chip on the PCI bus, which (suprise suprise)
+ is a PC based bus which is faster than Suns Sbus. Its about
+ this time when someone usually jumps up to say Suns "flexible"
+ plastic cases are of far higher quality than steel box PC cases,
+ or that the same chips, disks and monitors which are used in PCs
+ are of higher quality because they are shipped in a box with the
+ Sun logo.
So SUN uses PCI, so what?
+ As for what the SPARC was designed for, even Suns management
+ is on the record from a few years back as saying they havent
+ been anywhere near the speed leader in a long time, but the
+ software base of Solaris is what keeps them in the number one
+ spot in the *NIX space. If performance and reliability were the
+ only concerns, Alpha and OpenVMS would have eaten the *NIX market
+ alive a very long time ago (does anyone remember the mid-1990s
+ when DOS could say "ABORT, RETRY, IGNORE?" on a floppy read
+ error, and yet Solaris 2.3 would reboot instantly without so
+ much as a kernel panic?)
Err, do you really think that Sun would be the number one in
the UNIX world if they did not have good hardware to run Solaris
on? I mean really, I work with a machine that has 64G of RAM in
it and 53 CPU's.. Has Intel even came close to an architechture
like that?
+ As Ive said before, Ive deployed Suns in a number of applications
+ and I own a pretty substantial amount of Sun hardware and software.
+ They provide "the right tool" for many jobs, but there are many
+ more still for which they arent performance or price/performance
+ competative with the alternatives.
The difference is you are comparing Intel Servers, with Sun
workstations. workstation != server, but even still, sun's
workstations outperform the majority of Intel servers. CPU
speed is only a small part of that.
Regards,
anm
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From: Randy Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADSL and PPP over Ethernet
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:59:15 -0500
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem SupraExpress 56i Diamond
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:05:20 -0500
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+ Win Modems do not work with linux.
Not true!
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: mounting and multimedia configuration
Date: 10 Jun 2000 17:08:40 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:45:49 GMT, Tiger Zuchini
<<8hu2cp$55b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>How would I know that I've mounted my CDROM right ? I dont get a cdrom
>listed when I try df -k
If it doesn't show up with df, it isn't mounted. Mount it with the
command "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" executed as root. The GNOME and KDE
graphical environments should give you an icon that says "CD-ROM" which
you can click on. Doing this will mount the CD-ROM and display its
contents in a file-manager window.
>Also, how does one go about configuring linux multimedia capabilities ?
Explain what you're using "multimedia" to mean here. When I see the
phrase "multimedia capabilities", I think of weasel marketing-speak that
doesn't mean anything useful.
Are you having problems configuring sound? Run "sndconfig" if you have
RedHat or Mandrake; refer to your distro's manual otherwise. Post the
exact make/model of your sound card (along with the output of "cat
/proc/pci" if the card is PCI) if you continue to have problems.
Are you having problems configuring the video card? Run SaX,
Xconfigurator, or XF86Setup as root. If that doesn't work, tell us which
distro you're using and the exact make/model of your video card--very new
hardware isn't supported by older distros, naturally. Upgrading Xfree86
to support new cards isn't tough, but it is a 10M download.
Look at http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ for much useful information.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: David Grogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel panic, no init found
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:56:56 -0400
I just compiled the full source for kernel 2.2.16, and added an entry in
lilo for it. When I rebooted, it identified all of my hard drives,
mounted / read only, then said "kernal panic: no init found, try passing
init=". Has anyone had any experience fixing this? Is it something
that I left out of the compilation, or something that I forgot to do
afterwards? All your help is appreciated.
David
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:02:48 GMT
"David Steuber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> [insane lunacy about companies murdering competitors snipped]
>
> Anyway, there is still the appellate process to go through. While all
> that is going on, Microsoft has a chance to organize affairs so that a
> break up won't hurt Bill Gates.
>
> Carnegie kept getting richer after Standard Oil was broken up.
No reason why he shouldn't have. Carnegie had invested in oil, but sold his
interests in the 1860's, before Standard Oil became a force in the industry.
Carnegie's major wealth came from steel. He sold his interest to J.P. Morgan
in 1901 for $480 million, making him the world's richest man.
-- Mike --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: kernel panic, no init found
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:17:02 GMT
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:56:56 -0400, David Grogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I just compiled the full source for kernel 2.2.16, and added an entry
>in lilo for it. When I rebooted, it identified all of my hard drives,
>mounted / read only, then said "kernal panic: no init found, try
>passing init=". Has anyone had any experience fixing this? Is it
>something that I left out of the compilation, or something that I
>forgot to do afterwards? All your help is appreciated.
Maybe you forgot ext2 support in new kernel? I would check your config
for filesystems.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dmitri V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISO image
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:21:49 +0300
Hello ALL,
Well, I got an ISO image of a CD-ROM with a bunch of something.
Unfortunately, I do not have CD writer on my RedHat box. So, this image
is just a single file.
Is it somehow possible to extract the contents of this ISO image so that
I would see the contents as if this CD, from which the image was ripped,
was mounted somewhere in my filesystem? In other words, is there any way
to somehow "unpack" it to a normal directory tree?
Any help would be greately appreciated.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Dmitri
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Mystery Reboot - Have I been cracked?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:45:57 -0500
"L. Bailey" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I got home tonight and found out that my server had rebooted.
> Has this ever happened to anyone else?
>
Yes, is it on UPS ? Most likely cause would a power blip or spike,
depends on how reliable the local power supply is.
--
Bob Martin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: kernel panic, no init found
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:49:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Grogan wrote:
>I just compiled the full source for kernel 2.2.16, and added an entry in
>lilo for it. When I rebooted, it identified all of my hard drives,
>mounted / read only, then said "kernal panic: no init found, try passing
>init=". Has anyone had any experience fixing this? Is it something
>that I left out of the compilation, or something that I forgot to do
>afterwards? All your help is appreciated.
Use the old kernel, then do a -
diff /usr/src/linux/.config /usr/src/linux/.config.old
-
I presume you ran lilo after modifying /etc/lilo.conf and of course
you need support for the ELF binary format compiled into the kernel.
Ta',
Juergen
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Crossposted-To:
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only root can receive email
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:51:58 -0500
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, root wrote:
[ snip of entire post ]
Eric, I am glad to hear that you worked out your problem,
however let me make a suggestion if you will. I noticed
that you are posting as root. This is generally indicative
of using the root account for things other that system
maintenance. As you have now fixed your problem, I would
stop using the superuser account for routine activities
such as surfing the web, and posting to Usenet. Use
root as little as possible. This will save you headaches
in the future.
Best Wishes,
anm
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Subject: Re: kernel panic, no init found
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:04:23 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) writes:
>> I just compiled the full source for kernel 2.2.16, and added an entry
>> in lilo for it. When I rebooted, it identified all of my hard drives,
>> mounted / read only, then said "kernal panic: no init found, try
>> passing init=". Has anyone had any experience fixing this? Is it
>> something that I left out of the compilation, or something that I
>> forgot to do afterwards? All your help is appreciated.
>
> Maybe you forgot ext2 support in new kernel? I would check your config
> for filesystems.
Ext2 is there. The kernel mounted / ro. I think he just defined
a wrong partition as root in /etc/lilo.conf.
Vilmos
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Subject: Re: ISO image
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:07:22 GMT
Dmitri V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is it somehow possible to extract the contents of this ISO image so that
> I would see the contents as if this CD, from which the image was ripped,
> was mounted somewhere in my filesystem? In other words, is there any way
> to somehow "unpack" it to a normal directory tree?
mount -t iso9660 -o loop your.iso.image /mnt/iso/image
You need loopback device (not network loopback) support in your kernel.
You can even install RedHat for example from such an image via ftp.
Vilmos
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