Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #18               Fri, 12 Feb 99 02:13:09 EST

Contents:
  text files --> vi ("Gert Ormel")
  Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: text files --> vi (garv)
  Re: APM/DPMS harddisk spindown? (Thomas Frese)
  Re: Please,Help me whit tcl/tc...! (Estela Valle Pendon)
  world's smallest webserver (Gerald Willmann)
  Re: deleting kernel sources okay? (Rob O'Connell)
  Re: set up small word-processing system (Tim Laursen)
  Re: WANTED: Quality Control Info. (John Hasler)
  cat: write error: no space left on device [was From RedHat to Slackware) (Jason)
  sound applications can't open /dev/dsp initially when using KDE (Chris Leith)
  Re: Install scsi after install ("(BXTC)")
  Re: Opinions about LyX? ("Kester Clegg")
  linux denies printer access. (Tim Hillman)
  Re: Help, ISP setup! (Kalevi Hautaniemi)
  Re: Opinions about LyX? (Steve Dunham)
  Re: character vs graphics mode (Tim Laursen)
  FAT32 support in Dosemu? (Kit Peters)
  [Q] How to display ANSI (color) characters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: what does it mean when LILO just says "LI" ("Charles Sullivan")
  teleconferencing ("ag")
  Re: compile redhat 5.2 ("conrad")
  Re: kernel too big? (Clive DaSilva)
  Re: first unix port to x86 (James Youngman)
  compile redhat 5.2 ("conrad")
  Linux and FAT file time? (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Howto do Encrypted IP Tunneling with Linux? (James Youngman)
  Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. (Scott W. Petersen)

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From: "Gert Ormel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: text files --> vi
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:05:47 -0000

I've got a couple of scripts for creating tables, sequences, indexes etc.
The scripts were created using notepad/wordpad
and stored as plain text.

I would like to know if it is possible to recreate these scripts
using vi, without having to type everything again.

Thanks

Gert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows-nt.misc
Subject: Re: Europarlement wishes to ban Proxy servers
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:44:14 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Raymond Doetjes wrote:
[...]
>Those fucking guys with ties in Brussel, are thinking about banning
>proxy servers from the internet!!!

Complete nonsense ... just that, proxying is excluded since it would
neither make sense nor would it possible.

Just to get that straight, the rest is worse enough anyway ...
[...]
>Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf"
[...]
... but hey, perhaps they can forbid *that* in news postings 8)

Uh uh,
Juergen

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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: text files --> vi
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:11:08 GMT

Gert Ormel wrote:

> I would like to know if it is possible to recreate these scripts
> using vi, without having to type everything again.
>
>

It seem you could put them on a floppy and use the vfat parameter (edit
fstab, etc) to mount a dos disk
and copy them to your /home dir.  Worked for me going the other way.



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From: Thomas Frese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: APM/DPMS harddisk spindown?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:10:49 -0500

hmm..no, I don't see any options for HD power-down in the
kernel settings...using the apm program (apmd package)
one can set the machine manually into suspend mode (apm -S),
however, on mine, this doesn't affect the monitor/display
under X....also, apm doesn't seem to have a timer. Maybe 
the new Xfree is better?

Tom


Lyle Taylor wrote:
> 
> There are APM BIOS settings that can be compiled into the kernel.  You
> might take a look at that.
> 
> Lyle
> 
> Thomas Frese wrote:
> >
> > Would anybody know how to Linux to spin down
> > the hard disk after a specified inactivity time?
> > My machine has a APM bios and I'm using
> >
> > 'xset dpms 0 600 0'
> >
> > which switches my screen to pwr-save after 600secs...
> > How do you switch off the HD? The 'Battery Powered mini-HOWTO'
> > doesn't really give conclusive info on this and neither does
> > the apmd documentation that I found. I don't want to use the bios
> > inactivity timer since it doesn't work with my graphics
> > card under X, i.e. it doesn't switch off the screen. So running
> > both the Linux dpms timer as well as the bios timer is not
> > recommended...
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom

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From: Estela Valle Pendon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please,Help me whit tcl/tc...!
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:41:13 +0100

Thank you for your answer Wallace. Could you help me with another question
about tcl/td ?
    I know I'm newbie so perhaps my questions are a little evident. What must I
do for use tk? I think that it's done calling to tkcvs but when I do it I have
a message which tells me that there is a variable who are not defined but  I
don't know what must contain that variable (rootcvs or cvsroot) . Could you
help me please?.
Do you know where can I have documentation about it?
Thank you very much.



Wallace Barnes III escribi�:

> TCL is a language used primarily to automate usage of interactive programs
> such as telnet and ftp. It also has X windows commands which allow for
> construction of X interfaces (widgets) making your tcl "scripts" easier for
> users to work with.
> TK is a toolkit of tcl "scripts" which can be used in standalone situations
> (in some cases) or with scripts you build.
>
> Wally
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove nospam to reply)
>
> Estela Valle Pendon wrote:
>
> > Hello:
> > I'm new in Debian Linux so I don't really know what's tcl/tk. I think
> > it's an grafic development for C++ but I'm not sure. If you can explain
> > it to me, please do it.
> > Thank you
> > Estela.


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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: world's smallest webserver
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:29:52 -0800

just visited the world's smallest webserver (about the size of a matchbox)
at http://wearables.stanford.edu. Guess which OS it is running. Well, you
guessed it. 
                                     GErald



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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: deleting kernel sources okay?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:15:29 -0600

Juergen Heinzl wrote:

> >> I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.2.1.  I was wondering after
> >> successfully installing and
> >> running the new kernel  - can I now delete the source files under:
> >> /usr/src/linux?
> >
> >Yes.
> ...aehm, no ... at least if you still want to compile something ...
> >
>

ahem, (more phlegm) ahem! I think Tim is correct - true if the guy had not
installed the 2.2.1 kernel source he would have no include files...so it
*is* a waste of space

Rob

--
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lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell




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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: set up small word-processing system
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 05:20:19 +0100

steve mcadams wrote:
> 
> I've scavenged enough spare parts to put together a system for my son.
> He's 21, knows little about computers; says he wants to use it as a
> word-processor, basically no more than a typewriter with a disk
> system.
> 
> The system I've put together is based on a Packard-Bell DX2-50
> multimedia system.  The thing seems only to have 4meg of ram, and
> Win95 won't run on it.  Rather than scrounge for simms, I'm thinking
> that I'll just put Linux on it, I expect Linux would be pleased as
> punch to have a new roomy 4meg home (though I don't know this for a
> fact yet).

On four megabytes... That is stressing it to the edge, if you want to
run both X-windows and a WYSIWYG word processor. It is Linux, but that
doesn't mean that it will work ANY kind of miracle for you. At least(!)
four more megabytes is highly recommended. As a rule eight megs is
needed just to run X-windows.

> Anyway, I'm concerned that as a near-computer-illterate user, he might
> have trouble learning emacs or whatever.  I personally like mcedit or
> the editor in ktdesk, but then I haven't had time to read the emacs
> book yet because I'm busy scrounging parts for my kids.

If he is not a computer literate, and don't plan to be, Emacs is not his
cup of tea. It does not format the text (change font size and such).
Despite it's reputation it is still only a text editor, not a word
processor.

> So does this sound like a decent plan, if so what would you recommend
> as a WYSIWYG editor that will provide print support?  I've also
> scrounged a Decwriter-65, not sure if Linux has a driver that will
> support it.

There is stuff like Star Office and Word Perfect around, but I suspect
they will not run very smoothly on the configuration you are proposing.
Then there is LyX (http://www.lyx.org), which supposedly isn't a very
big memory hog. It is a bit unconventional though, and not particularly
fast, so I can't guarantee that your son will like it.


I don't know about the printer driver. I guess most old printers will
work with Linux. If you are lucky a standard driver will do
sufficiently, even if you can't find a dedicated Decwriter-65 driver.

-- 

  (\        Best regards,        /)
-||||8-          Tim          -8||||-
  (/      2B OR NOT 2B = FF      \)

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Quality Control Info.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:34:36 GMT

Gary Momarison writes:
> Anybody got any info or links to info on Quality Control which I can put
> in Gary's Encyclopedia?  It seems that QC gets little consideration in
> the OSS world. At least when compared to some other worlds I've known.

I'd say it's the other way around.  We give considerable attention to
quality (cf the Debian bug tracking system: www,debian.org).  However, we
are interested in real quality, not ISO9000 paper shuffling.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.inux.help
Subject: cat: write error: no space left on device [was From RedHat to Slackware)
From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:22:29 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes...RedHat was easier to install, but in my dealings (still not
totally successful) with SlackWare, I've learned a good deal more about
linux.  Anyway...here's the hitch now.  Got the boot floppy working
(either use bare.i or aztech.i).  Can't get the latest color.gz to write
to floppy correctly...even when I reboot win9x (piece of...nevermind
don't have time for that ;-) into MS-DOS mode it doesn't do it
correctly.  Am going to give it a try tomorrow even if  I have to hunt
down a UNIX box to do so! Got a friend with a Sun station might be able
to do it!

Anyway...I can use the color or text rootdisk from the 'obsolete'
directory...and it starts out working fine.  The 'old' color one even
says it is the 3.5.0 installer!

BTW...I even went into the BIOS and did a low-level format...then set up
a 1G partition (for /) and another 800M or so for /home. and of course
my swap file (32M)...and yes I formatted it as linux swap...not native.

Now, when some packages/disksets are installing I get...

"cat: error: no left space on device", but the install goes on.  The
punchline...LILO doesn't get set up/or doesn't get set up correctly.
Any indications as to why I'm running out of space (even on a basic....A
set only) install onto a 1G partition?

Thanks again (in advance)

And thanks to those who posted previously,

Jason


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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:20:03 -0500
From: Chris Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: sound applications can't open /dev/dsp initially when using KDE

When I enable system sounds in KDE 1.0 I often get error messages when I
start applications that want to access the sound hardware:

can't open /dev/dsp

For example, if I use gqmpeg and I configure it to begin playing when it
is run I get the above error.  Gqmpeg still starts, without playing, and
I can press the play button to begin playback, but it will not start
right away.  I have noticed the same thing with mtv.  Mtv will start,
complain, and initially mute the sound.  You can immediately take the
muting off though, and everything is normal.

Is there a way to prepare /dev/dsp for a new application?  That is, can
you somehow quickly initialize it, ripping it away from KDE's grasp?  (I
am pretty sure that KDE is the offender because I don't notice the
problem if I turn the system sounds off.  I would like to use the system
sounds though.)

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris Leith



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From: "(BXTC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install scsi after install
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:37:26 -0500

OK, since noone helped I asked some people on IRC and they helped me
out.  I'm going to post how I did it so people can find this on deja
news.It is real simple, first I physically installed the card...then
booted the machine.  Then I Installed Xforms rpm and then installed
jaZip tarball.  And it all worked...It was VERY easy.  I was scared for
nothing.  


(BXTC) wrote:
> 
> OK, I know this has had to been asked but I checked Dejanews and didn't
> find a good answer...Basically this is my first venture into the world
> of scsi...I want to add a scsi controller(adaptec) (and zip drive) to my
> current machine.  I saw the option to add a scsi device when I installed
> linux (redhat 5.1 3.0.34) but how do I do it after the install is done?
> And is there any other info I need to know?  I have no idea on what to
> expect since I've never used a scsi card before.  Thanks to all that
> reply
> --
> No great Genius has ever existed without some touch of madness.
> Aristotle
> 
> (BXTC) ICQ# 23289202

-- 
Violence is necessary; it is as American as cherry pie.
Rap Brown

(BXTC) ICQ# 23289202

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From: "Kester Clegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:55:15 -0000

Lamport book is essential for understanding some of the *potential* of
Latex.  Don't bother with LyX, you will learn far more tricks doing it
yourself and asking people in other depts for examples of their tex files
with fancy tables, diagrams, etc.  Plus, xemacs has quite wonderful support
for tex *including* opening existing latex files (unlike LyX), such as
reftex which lets you jump about a massive, multifile document with complete
ease and check / interact all your bibtex and refs. And boy, is xemacs
configurable!
k.

>
>There are 2 standard LaTeX books:
>The LaTeX manual (LaTeX2e edition) by Lamport,
>and The LaTeX Companion (Goossens et al).
>
>All LaTeX software is available from the CTANs, eg ftp.tex.ac.uk .
>Timothy Murphy
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>tel: +353-1-2842366
>s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland





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From: Tim Hillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux denies printer access.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:54:55 -0800

Hi.
I have an Aix box connected to a linux (kernel 2.1.131) box that has an
HP deskjet attatched to it.  I have configured a remote print queue on
the aix box that points to the printer on the linux box.  The problem is
that when I try to send a print job to that printer, the linux box sends
back the following message: 
 
altair:  /usr/sbin/lpd: hpdj500: Your host does not have line printer
access.
 
I don't quite understand why the aix box is being turned down.  I have
"ALL" in my hosts.lpd file ( as well as the host name of the aix box ). 
All other services work fine (telnet, ftp, sendmail etc...).
 
Perhaps somebody can tell me what I should be looking for ?

Tim Hillman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kalevi Hautaniemi)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: Help, ISP setup!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:22:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

William Gross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,


:     I need some help, please.  I am running RedHat 5.2 on a a clone pc,
: and I am trying to connect to my ISP which is called Integrity Online.

To help us to find out what's wrong, please post the output of 'route -n'
and 'ifconfig' commands while your unusable link is up.

Kalevi


--
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****  http://oh3tr.ele.tut.fi/~oh3fg/ ****  On air:  OH3FG, KO4BC  ****
tel:+358-3-364-7446    mobile:+358-50-590-2243 or +358-50-033-5447

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From: Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: 12 Feb 1999 00:01:59 -0500

Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 4 Feb 1999, Phil Adamson wrote:
> 
> >     2. How does it interact with non-standard packages, custom classes
> > etc?
> 
> You can still use all the non-LyX LaTeX packages available. There is a
> facility to enter LaTeX statements directly and mark them as such - this
> works well in my *limited* experience.

It works very poorly in my experience.  Last semester I had a class
that used the one of the zed packages (Which essentially add a new
latex environment whose contents are rendered in math mode.)

(I also don't like the xforms widget library - not only does it look
bad, but also the menu handling is very non-intuitive.)

I typically use XEmacs (auctex) + X-Symbol mode (which gives somewhat
WYSIWYG equations) for TeX documents.


Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Tim Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: character vs graphics mode
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:01:24 +0100

steve mcadams wrote:

> So, what libraries are for character mode that will also allow
> high-res graphics?  Or is there a way to run a TTY in Linux in
> graphics mode other than running X?  And finally, can anyone recommend
> a url where I can learn about the differences between these two
> operating modes of monitors?  -steve

Why don't you want to run your text based programs from an x-term (in
X)? I haven't seen any tty programs, that wouldn't run in an x-term.

You cant have text mode and graphics at the same time. It is an either
or situation.

Check out http://linux.open.ac.uk/issue21/svgatext.html. It will allow
you to alter the refresh rate and resolution of your text mode console.
If you can tune the resolution to match the one you use in X, you could
eliminate the need to wait for the monitor to change settings. Mind you,
nobody is giving you any guarantee for this to work.


Good luck

-- 

  (\        Best regards,        /)
-||||8-          Tim          -8||||-
  (/      2B OR NOT 2B = FF      \)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kit Peters)
Subject: FAT32 support in Dosemu?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:05:08 GMT

How do I get dosemu to recognize my FAT32 partitions?

I have it recognizing my FAT16 disk partition just fine.  

I'm running kernel 2.2.0 on an AMD K6/233, with a heavily modified RH 5.1
system.  Dosemu is booting from a disk image containing a standard win95
system disk (command.com, io.sys and msdos.sys to boot to DOS command-line).

I really want to play all my cheezy DOS games.... *grin*

Kit Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Q] How to display ANSI (color) characters
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:53:29 GMT

Hi falks,

I telneted to my Linux box from MS Windows NT workstation (using the
Telnet.exe program that came with NT).  From within this Linux shell account,
I launched ircII-4.4 and connected to an IRC server.  Then I realized that
those mIrc users were putting out a lot of ANSI colored characters, which
looked something like "C5|C14-C0,1 I..." and was very hard to read.

I thought I might be able to see those characters in color once I set my
Linux shell account terminal type up right.  Am I right?  Even if I was, I
don't know how to do so.  Please tell me how.  If it's not as easy as
changing some terminal configuration on my shell account, what does it take? 
Do I need to get a telnet client that can display color?  Well, I aready got
one but this one didn't display ANSI characters correctly, either.  Please
tel me what I have to do.

Thank you very much in advance and have a nice day.

_Jung


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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what does it mean when LILO just says "LI"
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:06:03 -0500

Where exactly is the root partition located on your drive?  fdisk didn't
create the partitions on my drive in the order I specified them.

Tom Trebisky wrote in message <7a01f7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>I have seen this before, and heard various folklore about it,
>but what does it mean when a system starts to boot and LILO
>just manages to print out the first 2 letters "LI".
>
>In the particular case in question I am trying to install
>Red Hat 5.2 on a scsi system.  Only linux on the machine and the
>disks to my knowlege are new from the factory (two scsi drives).
>
>I used disk druid to make partitions (150M for root, 100M for swap,
>and the remaining 8G of the first drive for /usr; the second drive
>is all for /home).  When it asked where to install lilo I told it
>/dev/sda, but then when I went to boot off the hard-drive the BIOS
>says I cannot find anything bootable.
>
>Soooo .. I go back and reboot the RH install disk, run fdisk and
>mark my root partition as bootable (/dev/sda1) and now I get the
>two letter "LI" thing from lilo.
>
>What am I doing wrong?  I have installed numerous ide systems with
>no trouble, but this is my first time with scsi, so I guess I need
>to learn some new tricks.
>
>Thanks to anyone who can take some time to help.
>
> Tom
>--
> Tom Trebisky MMT Observatory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Arizona
> http://kofa.as.arizona.edu/ Tucson, Arizona 85721
> (520) 621-5135



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From: "ag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: teleconferencing
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:46:04 -0600

Hi All,

I'm looking for info on using linux to teleconference over tcp/ip.  I've
checked a few Linux sites but haven't turned up anything.

Can anyone recommend a good source of info?  I'm looking for stuff on
hardware/software/methodologies.  Thanks.

Andrew




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From: "conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compile redhat 5.2
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:10:40 +0100

ps: I have problems to read that ng... can you mail me a copy of your
answers? (if you dare answering ;)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clive DaSilva)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: kernel too big?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:10:44 GMT

yeps mark ;))



 Solution -->>>>>   System is too big. Try using bzImage or module


Mark Matties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>hi folks,
>
>i'm running 2.0.36 under redhat 5.2 on a 200Mhz ppro machine with
>48Mb of ram and 35 Mb of free disk (in the partition holidng /usr/src)
>and (typically) 100+Mb  of free swap.
>
>i've got this same problem with both 2.1.132 and 2.2.1 kernels,
>**even if i use the default config options (i.e., don't add anything).**
>however, i don't have any trouble compiling 2.0.36 from scratch.
>
>i make sure that i -
>make mrproper; make xconfig (use default config - just save & exit);
>make dep; make clean; make; make zImage
>
>here is the last bit of the output from make zImage -
>
>tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage
>Root device is (3, 1)
>Boot sector 512 bytes.
>Setup is 1292 bytes.
>System is 542 kB
>System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
>make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.1.132/arch/i386/boot'
>make: *** [zImage] Error 2
>
>any ideas??
>
>thanks,
>mark
>
>
>   Dr. Mark Alan Matties                 Senior Network Engineer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     NASA / Goddard Space Flight Center
>     (301) 614-5295                       ESDIS Network Prototyping Lab
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hi, i just got my hands on 2.2.1 and tried compiling it, it compiled ok but
>> it was huge!  I really didn't think i had selected that much but anyway i
>> tried using zlilo and lilo apparently agrrees with me in that it is really
>> big, but lilo doesn't seem to use it... i try using it anyway and my box
>> boots up ok but it boots up with all the things that were in the old kernel!
>> and nothing from what was in the new kernel!  the kicker is that i moved my
>> old kernel and it seems to still be using it... i am quite confused.  i have
>> tried compiling it with *everything* i could as mods but it is still > 1megs!
>>  i have used bzImage but that doest seem to be of much help.  any help would
>> be greatly appricated here!
>>
>>       -Gaiko
>>
>> Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>> Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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>

Clive DaSilva CMA       
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://www.Geocities.com/Broadway/2207

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: first unix port to x86
Date: 09 Feb 1999 23:00:12 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:

> It was the 7 Feb 1999 19:38:30 -0500...
> ...and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <Capv2.8869$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Martin Doehring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >When did that come out?  I have a "True Blue" copy of PCIX that's
> > >dated 10/83. It's System III and runs on the 8088 (yes, an XT).
> > 
> > Shrug... Sorry, I've messed substraction up - Xenix goes back to 81 (maybe
> > some pieces are earlier than that), so it's 10 years, not 8. It's a direct
> > descendant of v7.
> 
> Hum, how does a Unix work on a machine without an MMU?

The same way it worked on the machine on which Unix was developed.
Without memory protection.

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From: "conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compile redhat 5.2
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:05:49 +0100

When I type "make config", it says that it doesn't know the "config" bash...
But why ??



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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and FAT file time?
Date: 10 Feb 1999 21:58:25 GMT

Hi.

When I create a file on a FAT partition from Linux, the file time on FAT
(as seen by Windows) is +5 hours ahead of real local time. Linux sees
local time on the file.

Now, I'm in the EST zone (which I think is GMT -5 hours). Is this normal
for Linux to do this? Is there a way to make it _not_ do this?

Thanks.
Mark

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto do Encrypted IP Tunneling with Linux?
Date: 09 Feb 1999 23:00:59 +0000

Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anybody out there have a reference to a howto 
> on setting up Encrypted IP tunneling over the
> internet between to linux boxes?

Try CIPE.

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From: root@[127.0.0.1] (Scott W. Petersen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange.
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:57:54 GMT

After a couple disasters with exchange and NT our company will not
recommend Exchange any more to our customers (not able to restore a
single users  exchange data from tape without setting up a test
server). It is a hard thing to do explaining why it takes 6 hours to
accomplish something that should be a couple key strokes to the
customer.

Exchange is flat out broken, exchange is not the standard way email is
handled on the internet.  To be more compatible with the rest of the
world I would think a college or university would use standards for
email not do it the microsoft way.

Scott

On 12 Feb 1999 02:42:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Farris)
wrote:

>I work for a local Collge that has about 1400 PC's and many 
>students and staff.  I've been advocating Linux for a while 
>and we actually do have a few Linux servers and are going to 
>offer an intro course in the Fall.
>
>The problem is, the powers that be are thinking of going to an 
>Exchange server for email and I'm looking for all the ammunition 
>I can get (besides cost) for NOT using Exchange.  I want to write 
>a formal response with an alternative solution using Linux.  At 
>the very least, I would like to see the mail system stay on the 
>VAX where it currenty is.
>
>Any and all pointers, data, experience, URL's is greatly 
>appriciated.
>
>Thanks in advance. I'll post results when I get them.
>
>-- 
>======================================================================George Farris - 
>VE7FRG           E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Please remove *N*o*S*p*a*m* from my e-mail
address.

Scott W. Petersen - N9SLA
Elgin, IL USA

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