Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #24 Thu, 29 Jun 00 21:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Shell scripting and chmod +s (Marc J. Miller)
Re: Gnome vs KDE (Tom Hoffmann)
Re: Accidently Disabled Wildcards for chown and chgrp commands. Help! ("Radicator")
No dynamic fonts in netscape 4.73 (Sandhitsu R Das)
Re: GUI for sendmail
what is -lz ? (Ian Mortimer)
Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash? ("Sean")
Re: what is -lz ? (Ian Mortimer)
Re: Netscape 4.63 can't access Newsgroups (JR)
Re: what is -lz ? (Bjoern Frantzen)
Re: adjust clock on linux ("Martin Klingensmith")
adjust clock on linux (Lily Fu)
Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash? (Robert Heller)
Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash? (blowfish)
Re: Linux Command. (blowfish)
Re: Where Can I Find Pico Source Code? (blowfish)
Re: changing monitor settings ("John D. Goulden")
Re: Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? ("Charlie
Root")
Re: adjust clock on linux (Homer Jay)
Re: "screen" problems while using a vt320 (Pete Zaitcev)
Re: OpenBSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux (blowfish)
Re: adjust clock on linux (Robert Heller)
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From: Marc J. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shell scripting and chmod +s
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:55:13 GMT
>From the Linux FAQ file:
7.5. Setuid Scripts Don't Seem to Work.
That's right. This feature has been disabled in the Linux kernel on
purpose, because
setuid scripts are almost always a
security hole. Sudo and SuidPerl can provide more security than
setuid scripts or
binaries, especially if execute permissions
are limited to a certain user ID or group ID.
If you want to know why setuid scripts are a security hole, read the
FAQ for
comp.unix.questions.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I had a simmilar problem a few weeks ago, and found the 'sudo'
> workaround.
> But still i'm asking myself: Why doesn't the u+s bit work for
> scripts?
> (I actually only tried #!/bin/sh ones...)
>
> Ciao,
> Dirk
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:10:11 GMT
> If anyone has any BB advice email it please!
I use BB as my wm ... specifically, what advise are you looking for?
The BB website has a decent user's guide. You can check it out at
http://blackbox.alug.org/.
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From: "Radicator" <bankview1@[remove to send email]nucleus.com>
Subject: Re: Accidently Disabled Wildcards for chown and chgrp commands. Help!
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:16:49 GMT
>Didn't you manage to create a strangely named file? do an ls and check it.
>It should be at the beginning of the listing.
>
>Vilmos
Vilmos,
Great advice! I checked and there's a ton of files with a hyphen as their
first character. I thought maybe I had done that, but no! The files were in
there already.
Why I didn't go back a directory and check to see if chown would work with
wildcards there I have no idea. I did go back to another directory and chown
works fine. It was just a diabolical coincidence that I entered that
buggered-up chown command as my first act in that directory.
Thanks for the help!
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From: Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux
Subject: No dynamic fonts in netscape 4.73
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:31:00 -0400
I am using Mandrake 7.1 . Netscape doesn't display dynamic fonts. I've
tried all the usual to-dos - my preferences are set to display dynamic
fonts, the pfr mimetype is defined ( although the action taken is defined
as "Prompt User" ) and I've cleared the cache and reloaded the page
several times. I'm getting mad at this - my SGI netscape at work works
fine! Somebody please help me...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: GUI for sendmail
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:33:42 GMT
Would something like postfix or qmail be an option?
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:13:13 +0100, Jim Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there an open source GUI for sendmail. I've seen Sendmail Pro advertised
>at $99, but would obviously prefer a free option.
You could also try looking into WebMin and Linuxconf for sendmail
modules.
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/ | \
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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what is -lz ?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:41:32 +0000
Hi guys,
I'm trying to get my scanner working with SANE using the plustek backend
but I have come across a small problem (see below)
cc -ltiff -ljpeg -lm -lz -O3 ./obj.user/plustek_scan.o
./obj.user/p9636.o ./obj.user/misc.o ./obj.user/detect.o
./obj.user/genericio.o ./obj.user/dac.o ./obj.user/p48xx.o
./obj.user/scale.o ./obj.user/motor.o ./obj.user/ptdrv.o
./obj.user/image.o ./obj.user/map.o ./obj.user/models.o
./obj.user/transform.o -o plustek_scan
/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lz: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [plustek_scan] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/ian/apps/sane-1.0.2/backend/plustek_driver'
make: *** [all] Error 2
ian@pent133:~/apps/sane-1.0.2/backend/plustek_driver >
What exactly is ld referring to when it says it can't find -lz ?
How would I go about fixing this ?
Rgds,
Ian.
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From: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:53:27 -0500
I grabbed the source and compiled it ... works great. When I used to run
Windows, I used MS Money, and I find that I enjoy GNUCash much more. Its
layout seems to make a bit more sense to me.
Sean
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert L. Cochran Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a new Linux user and would like to know how to install GnuCash. I'd
> like advice from someone who uses this software. I am running Red Hat
> 6.2 with kernel version 2.2.16-3, all bug fix and security updates
> applied. I downloaded gnucash-1.4.1-1.i386.rpm from the ftp site at
> ftp://ftp.gnucash.org picking the rpm from the Red Hat 6.x directory.
> How do I install it?
>
> Also there is what looks like a brand new GnuCash forum at
> http://www.gnucash.org and the Linux user's group at
> http://www.lugod.org had a presentation on using it on June 19, but it
> does not look like they posted the notes for that topic yet.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Cochran
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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what is -lz ?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:02:55 +0000
Duh !
It came to me as I was reading back my post - lz -> zlib !
Don't worry about me - feeling a bit scatty tonight !
Rgds,
Ian.
Ian Mortimer wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm trying to get my scanner working with SANE using the plustek backend
> but I have come across a small problem (see below)
>
> cc -ltiff -ljpeg -lm -lz -O3 ./obj.user/plustek_scan.o
> ./obj.user/p9636.o ./obj.user/misc.o ./obj.user/detect.o
> ./obj.user/genericio.o ./obj.user/dac.o ./obj.user/p48xx.o
> ./obj.user/scale.o ./obj.user/motor.o ./obj.user/ptdrv.o
> ./obj.user/image.o ./obj.user/map.o ./obj.user/models.o
> ./obj.user/transform.o -o plustek_scan
> /usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lz: No such file or directory
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[1]: *** [plustek_scan] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> `/home/ian/apps/sane-1.0.2/backend/plustek_driver'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> ian@pent133:~/apps/sane-1.0.2/backend/plustek_driver >
>
> What exactly is ld referring to when it says it can't find -lz ?
>
> How would I go about fixing this ?
>
> Rgds,
>
> Ian.
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From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.63 can't access Newsgroups
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:11:15 GMT
"Dr. Guillermo A. Morales" wrote:
> OK, The problem was I had not setup the pop parameters. Once I did that the
> message went away. However, the problem remains: Netscape can't access
> newsgroups.
>
> It keeps saying that it can't find the newsgroup servers!!! I've tried many
> name combinations to get it to work, but no luck so far. I still have to go
> back to Windows to do this (sight).
>
> Your help will be deeply appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Guillermo (Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> "Dr. Guillermo A. Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:5eD25.3638$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi, I just installed Red Hat 6.1 with several programs being Netscape one
> of
> > them.
> >
> > I have been able to get Netscape to surf the net and send/receive emails.
> > But when I try to use it to read Newsgroups Netscape keeps telling me it
> > can't do it because I did not provide a username! I have gone to
> > Preferences/Newsgroups, gave the name for the server (in this case it's
> > News) and input also my name with email address, etc.
> >
> > Why does Netscape keep telling me it I did not give username? And how can
> > this be fixed?
> >
> > Please copy your answers to my personal email account as well
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >
> > Guillermo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
check to see if your news server requires you to log in if it does delete the
old server out of your settings and add a new one with your log in info if not
ensure you have checked ask only when required
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjoern Frantzen)
Subject: Re: what is -lz ?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:11:24 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>I'm trying to get my scanner working with SANE using the plustek backend
>but I have come across a small problem (see below)
>
>What exactly is ld referring to when it says it can't find -lz ?
zlib.
>How would I go about fixing this ?
Install zlib, available in most distributions, or you can get it directly
from http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/zlib.
--
Bj�rn Frantzen
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From: "Martin Klingensmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: adjust clock on linux
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:18:36 GMT
Try using one of those scripts on Freshmeat [www.freshmeat.net] that
synchronize your clock to a time server, it'll most likely be easier and
more accurate.
"Lily Fu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> The clock on my linux (Red Hat Linux 6.1 Cartman, Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an
> i686)
> is one hour late. I want to adjust the clock to current.
>
> I did read HOWTO and man hwclock, I tried the following, but it didn't
> work:
>
> /sbin/hwclock --set --date="6/29/00 6:27:00"
>
> It didn't give me any error, I also did:
>
> /sbin/hwclock --hctosys
>
> nothing happened. Then I shutdown the machine:
>
> shutdonw -h now
>
> and powered it on again, the clock didn't get changed.
>
> My hardware is DELL Dimension XPC R450
>
> Can anyone help me please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lily
>
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From: Lily Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: adjust clock on linux
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:06:36 -0400
Hi,
The clock on my linux (Red Hat Linux 6.1 Cartman, Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an
i686)
is one hour late. I want to adjust the clock to current.
I did read HOWTO and man hwclock, I tried the following, but it didn't
work:
/sbin/hwclock --set --date="6/29/00 6:27:00"
It didn't give me any error, I also did:
/sbin/hwclock --hctosys
nothing happened. Then I shutdown the machine:
shutdonw -h now
and powered it on again, the clock didn't get changed.
My hardware is DELL Dimension XPC R450
Can anyone help me please?
Thanks,
Lily
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:33:08 GMT
"Robert L. Cochran Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:16:05 -0400, wrote :
"LCJ> I'm a new Linux user and would like to know how to install GnuCash. I'd
"LCJ> like advice from someone who uses this software. I am running Red Hat
"LCJ> 6.2 with kernel version 2.2.16-3, all bug fix and security updates
"LCJ> applied. I downloaded gnucash-1.4.1-1.i386.rpm from the ftp site at
"LCJ> ftp://ftp.gnucash.org picking the rpm from the Red Hat 6.x directory.
"LCJ> How do I install it?
RPM files are installed with the rpm command:
(as root):
# rpm -hiv gnucash-1.4.1-1.i386.rpm
(h == hash marks, i == install, v == verbose)
"LCJ>
"LCJ> Also there is what looks like a brand new GnuCash forum at
"LCJ> http://www.gnucash.org and the Linux user's group at
"LCJ> http://www.lugod.org had a presentation on using it on June 19, but it
"LCJ> does not look like they posted the notes for that topic yet.
"LCJ>
"LCJ> Thanks
"LCJ>
"LCJ> Bob Cochran
"LCJ>
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:37:28 -0700
"Robert L. Cochran Jr." wrote:
>
> I'm a new Linux user and would like to know how to install GnuCash. I'd
> like advice from someone who uses this software. I am running Red Hat
> 6.2 with kernel version 2.2.16-3, all bug fix and security updates
> applied. I downloaded gnucash-1.4.1-1.i386.rpm from the ftp site at
> ftp://ftp.gnucash.org picking the rpm from the Red Hat 6.x directory.
> How do I install it?
>
> Also there is what looks like a brand new GnuCash forum at
> http://www.gnucash.org and the Linux user's group at
> http://www.lugod.org had a presentation on using it on June 19, but it
> does not look like they posted the notes for that topic yet.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Cochran
Better get the tar ball, or the .src.rpm instead of the Bug
Hat's .rpm.
*You'll need some dependence files. I don't have the file
names off hand, but if you get the tar ball, it's listed in
there.
>From a terminal:-
The easiest way is to use the tar ball. Untar it, then cd to
/where_you_untar/to , do a ./configure , then a make , it'll
tells you if you have all the required files. If not, get
them, install them first , and repeat the ./configure, make
process; then, if all goes well,m do a make install (you
need to su to root for this step), then do a make clean to
clean up.
If you use the .src.rpm, first cd into /where-the file-is/,
do a
rpm --rebuild filename.src.rpm, then do a rpm -i
filename.rpm (su to root for this)
Alex Lam.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Command.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:41:11 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can someone tell me if there is any linux command
> which is similar to MSDOS Command - DIR /P ???
>
> I am using 'ls -al' to display complete
> information for the files and dircetorys, but i
> cannot pause it page by page.
>
> What i can see is only the last past of the
> directory after i press the return key.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Better to buy the book "Linux in a Nut Shell" . You'll need
it sooner or later, if you want to master Linux. Or if you
have "Unix in a nut shell" can do too, most are
interchangable.
Alex Lam.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where Can I Find Pico Source Code?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:45:00 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for pico source code to study how pico works.
> Is there anyone know where I can find it? Thanks in advance!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Pico is part of the Pine email reader.
The source should be available from
http://www.washington.edu/pine/
Alex Lam.
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From: "John D. Goulden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing monitor settings
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:36:21 -0500
> Thanks for the suggestion. Alas, ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-- do nothing at
all
Replying to own post: I hadn't realized that it's the _keypad_ + and - that
do the trick. Ctrl-alt-keypad+ and keypad- take me through my various
resolutions just as slick as you please. Thanks for the help and I'm sure
I'll be back with even more entertaining questions and problems later...
--
Please reply by email as well as to the group.
John D. Goulden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Charlie Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:50:39 GMT
Juergen Pfann wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Rod Smith wrote:
>>
>> (snipped a lot of fine and consistent explanation...).
>> NT does, however, re-write the
>> MBR when you install it, so it'll wipe out MBR-based boot loaders. Other
>> boot loaders, such as Linux's LILO, can reside in the MBR (LILO can also
>> reside in a partition's boot sector).
>>
>
>As opposed to most of your explanation, I disagree with the item above.
>NT (4.0, no experience with W2K), *does* replace a MBR if it's a
>"standard" DOS or Win95/98 one. BUT it leaves a LILO MBR alone if
>installed AFTER Linux (because it examines the boot code in there
>and "sees" it's not the MS-based code - just guessing) - at least seen
>that several times in my boxes with a FAT16 partition for W95 in
>addition to a NTFS partition each. With that, the LILO entry for
>the FAT(16) partition, that was previously starting W95, invokes
>the NT boot manager starting from the partition boot sector
>after the NT installation, which in turn offers to boot W95 via
>a backup file of the previous boot sector ("bootsect.dos").
>There's *no need* to reinstall LILO in such a situation - but I
>normally do that anyway to have one config for NT and one for
>W95 using THE SAME bootsector image that NT does (or, at least,
>a copy thereof in Linux's /boot directory (it's safer there - *g*).
>I think this is only possible if the W95(a) partition is *FAT16*,
>as in my case, because with W95 B/C or W98's FAT32, there's no
>write access to that partition, which has to be the *active* one
>anyway; so with FAT32, there's only the MBR left to install
>NT's booting "machinery" - but with FAT16, that works just as
>fine with the partition boot sector. With the absence of LILO,
>the user wouldn't see the difference, though.
>Please feel free to correct me, if in turn something I just
>said is wrong.
>To me, the above is quite important - as with my "largest" box,
>LILO has to manage 7 Linux installations, 2xWin95, NT, FreeBSD,
>OpenBSD and SCO OS 5.0.5 off 5 hard disks (2 IDE & 3 SCSI at
>the moment) - and I do doubt any other boot manager could do
>that as flexible as LILO does; I know for sure NT boot manager
>couldn't... ;-).
>
>Just my (rather 3 than 2) cents
>
>Juergen
I'll have to experiment most of the stuff I got here, including that 'dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1' if it really whack the NT boot code
at MBR or just the NT boot sector. It's really nice share experiences about
multibooting the hackers' way. I must have installed and reinstalled NT 4.0
and Linux in one Intel machine may be at least 20 times both OS just to
learn all heck of it.
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From: Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: adjust clock on linux
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:51:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The clock on my linux (Red Hat Linux 6.1 Cartman, Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an
> i686)
> is one hour late. I want to adjust the clock to current.
...
Were you logged in as root when you ran hwclock? If so, try setting
the time in your CMOS setup. I highly recommend installing a time
synchronization package to take care of it for you after that point.
I hear xntp is good, but I prefer chrony. It maintains clock accuracy
even when the network is not up, can compensate for long periods
when the machine is turned off, and can even set the hardware clock
on many linux systems.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Zaitcev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "screen" problems while using a vt320
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:02:42 GMT
> readlink("/proc/self/fd/0", "/dev/ttyS1", 4095) = 10
> stat("/dev/ttyS1", {st_mode=S_ISGID|0101, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
> geteuid() = 0
> getegid() = 0
> open("/dev/ttyS1", O_RDWR) = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
Make sure you do not run getty on /dev/cuab. Run getty on /dev/ttyS1.
If you do not shorten ready lines on the connector, program getty
to activate "clocal" mode. It's getty specific, so refer to your
manual. I use agetty with -L flag:
S0:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
Use of call-up devices in Linux is deprecated.
--Pete
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenBSD/FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:07:38 -0700
Martin Herrman wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:17:10 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The *BEST* Linux distro, and the best OS is FreeBSD. :)
>
> hehe.. i think you're a FreeBSD freak ;-)
>
Hey, I'm very lazy. I want something that is easy to
install, set up, maintain and stable.
Once set up, I can just leave it along, until I want to
upgrade something.
If I want to make my life more difficult, I'd use Windoz, or
Red Hat-Linux... :-|
> > FreeBSD is a speeding rocket daemon, especially with a
> > custom kernel.
>
> will i notice a better performance on my not so high loaded desktop?
>
Yes, you'll notice from boot up till you run out of
resources completely. Hotmail.com, www.cdrom.com, Intel
(heard that one of the Intel's server running FreeBSD stayed
up for 75,000 hours-then it crashed because of hardware
failure.) etc won't use FreeBSD without good reasons. ;-)
> > Stable as hell. (BTW.Building a custom
> > kernel with FreeBSD is almost a brain-dead event. Almost
> > impossible to make mistake, even for a newbie,) and the
> > ports system for apps installation and the whole/partial
> > system upgrade in like magic, makes .rpm, .deb and all other
> > Linux way of doing things look like unnecessary difficult
> > and like child's play.
>
> hihi ;-)
>
> > Non of any other OSs can even come
> > close to its ease and simplicity of getting things going.
> > Installation is a breeze. It's so easy, to the point of
> > being boring.
>
> that's what i like ;-)
>
> >
> > Running both FreeBSD and Linux side by side, with identical
> > hardware set up and custom built kernel for both, loading up
> > the identical servers, compiling codes, and so on, the
> > speed advantage of the FreeBSD over Linux is very noticable.
> >
> > NetBSD runs on almost every platforms that still exists.
> >
> > And according to bugstraqs, OpenBSD hasn't been cracked for
> > a couple of years says a lot about its default security.
> >
> > But too bad OpenBSD doesn't support SMP yet.
> >
> > But Linux still gets more toys. But most Linux's stuff will
> > runs fine on BSD, especially FreeBSD.
> >
> > You can do a REALLY lean and minimum installation with BSD.
> > Or you can load up over a Gig of space.
> >
> > The choice is yours.
> >
> > I'd say. Go for it. BSD can live with Linux together in
> > harmony as well. You can boot BSD with Lilo. FreeBSD can
> > multi-boot with Linux, Windoz, OS/2, and OpenBSD. But you'll
> > run into problem between FreeBSD and NetBSD.(their file
> > systems can get confused withn one another... Linux runs for
> > months, *BSD runs for year, or until a power outage, or you
> > shut it down. :)
>
> Well, it looks like i am trying the FreeBSD soon, but:
>
> how about my Xircom 56k/10/100mbit ethernet pcmcia card? Might be a
> problem, can't find it in the list of supported hardware in the
> FreeBSD handbook at the official homepage..
>
Get the kernel source. I'm not sure about your card, but
I've found some supported items inside the kernel source
that isn't listed in the database yet. :)
And building the kernel with FreeBSD is *VERY* simple and
easy. Piece of cake.
You can also try NetBSD, OpenBSD.:)
The hardware detection with FreeBSD put most Linux distros
(other than SuSE 6.4) to shame...
> thanks for your reply!
>
You're mucho welcomed.
Alex
> Martin
>
> >
> > Alex Lam.
> >
>
> --
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> Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
> 11:50am up 15 days, 13:19, 4 users, load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00
> Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adjust clock on linux
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:03:58 GMT
Lily Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:06:36 -0400, wrote :
LF> Hi,
LF>
LF> The clock on my linux (Red Hat Linux 6.1 Cartman, Kernel 2.2.12-20 on an
LF> i686)
LF> is one hour late. I want to adjust the clock to current.
LF>
LF> I did read HOWTO and man hwclock, I tried the following, but it didn't
LF> work:
LF>
LF> /sbin/hwclock --set --date="6/29/00 6:27:00"
LF>
LF> It didn't give me any error, I also did:
LF>
LF> /sbin/hwclock --hctosys
LF>
LF> nothing happened. Then I shutdown the machine:
LF>
LF> shutdonw -h now
LF>
LF> and powered it on again, the clock didn't get changed.
LF>
LF> My hardware is DELL Dimension XPC R450
LF>
LF> Can anyone help me please?
Do a 'man date'.
# date 062906272000.00
(6/29/2000 06:27:00)
Then:
# hwclock -w
LF>
LF> Thanks,
LF>
LF> Lily
LF>
LF>
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