Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #20 Sat, 10 Jul 99 16:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) ("Binesh Bannerjee")
netscape to mozilla (Al)
Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults??? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults??? (Leonard Evens)
Amiga will use the Linux kernel. (Spawn)
Re: Cron entry to run once? (Leonard Evens)
Netscape3-Gold ("Eric Wick")
Re: LILO hangs on LI (Kaji Shun)
Re: Hard disk troubles (Matthew W. Roberts)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce (Madam Blavatsky)
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Mark Hahn)
Re: "find" running after boot - why? ("Prasanth Kumar")
RH6 Local Networking with Win95 Clients (Teng-Yan Loke)
Need DEC Keyboard, keyboard mappings? ("David Hawks")
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (Tim Moore)
Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36 (Christopher B.
Browne)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce (Christopher B. Browne)
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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:04:02 GMT
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Ahem ... why is it not enough to know how to write A, L and O
: to call oneself writing literate?
No, why is it not enough to know how to express your thoughts
to call yourself writing literate, without having to have
memorized the entire dictionary, thesaurus and encyclopedia.
Why can't you call yourself writing literate if you don't know
what the word "vexillology" is?
: If you know how to send emails, you can call yourself email literate.
: If you know how to write resumes, you can call yourself word processing
: literate.
: If you know how to do taxes, you can call yourself taxpaying literate.
: But if you don't know what to do in special cases that happen, such
: as a virus accident or BSOD on MSOSed PCs or the `Quota exceeded'
: message on a multiuser-OS, then you are not computer literate.
: IMhO, these are quite normal cases.
Very well, then I submit, that one cannot call oneself "computer literate"
unless one knows how to write a device driver, how to write assembler
on all computers everywhere, know what the difference between heap
sort and quick sort is and under which circumstances which one is worse,
otherwise you can't call yourself "computer literate" either.
I should be able to call the Perl programmer illiterate, if he
doesn't know what to do if there is no database routine on
CPAN.
I'll agree then, if we agree that the word "computer literate" is
rendered meaningless.
However, most people are not on multiuser-OS' so they'll never
know what a "Quota exceeded" means. I am completely windows free,
so I have absolutely NO idea what BSOD even means... I can write
assembler on 68000, 386, Sparc, and whoo, dating myself, 6510 and
IBM VM/3090s, and can and have disassembled stripped Sparc binaries
to see what their doing (in absence of source). But, I guess I'm
still not computer literate.
let a = number of times the average person has needed to use letters [ALD]
while writing in their lifetime.
A = number of times the average person has needed to use letters outside
of [ALD] while writing in their lifetime.
b = number of times the average user has needed to know how to deal
with a virus attack or deal with a quota exceeded warning or
"BSOD" on MSDOS machines while using a computer in their lifetime.
B = number of times the average user has needed to know things outside
of {the above mentioned conditions} while using a computer in
their lifetime.
I'm willing to bet money that (a/A) FAR exceeds (b/B).
Binesh
: --
: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: This letter is best used chilled.
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: netscape to mozilla
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:22:31 -0400
I would like to try Mozilla m7. Is there any way to port my netscape
configuration
to mozilla. I can not find it in the Mozilla documentatiion.
Thanks
Al
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults???
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:12:29 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and e-mailed]
In article <7m7e2s$53a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would like to know if other people have had a similar experience such
> that when my C/C++ programs seg faults and dies, there is NO core file
> generated. The msg at my shell prompt after my program has died is
> simply:
> Segmentaion Fault
>
> when I'm sure it should read a little more like:
> core dumped
> Segmentation Fault
Perhaps your shell (or system) is set up to prevent core dumps.
See your shell's documentation to find out what to try (perhaps
search for "limit".)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults???
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:40:14 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to know if other people have had a similar experience such
> that when my C/C++ programs seg faults and dies, there is NO core file
> generated. The msg at my shell prompt after my program has died is
> simply:
> Segmentaion Fault
>
> when I'm sure it should read a little more like:
> core dumped
> Segmentation Fault
>
> I am currently running linux-2.0.37 with gcc-2.7.2.3 and libc.5.4.46
>
> Can someone please tell me whether there is an option to stop a core
> dump being produced, and where it can be set if it exists. Otherwise,
> any suggestions on ensure core file generation on seg faults would be
> greately appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> fraf
>
> ps - can people CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - thanks again
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
The usual reason no core dump is produced is that the owner of the
program does not have permission to write in the current directory.
You can set the maximum size of a core dump with the shell
command ulimit. See the bash man page or use info to explore
bash commands. If you set the limit very low, say 1K, then
no core dump will ever be produced.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Spawn)
Subject: Amiga will use the Linux kernel.
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:27:17 -0700
I read a report that Amiga will use the Linux Kernel. Does that mean the
new Amiga OS will run on my PC or do I have to buy a Amiga computer?
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cron entry to run once?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:44:17 -0500
Justin B Willoughby wrote:
> Stewart Honsberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > {sigh} I've read all the man pages, but now it's time for me to beg for
> > help. :/
> >
> > I've just grabbed Seti@Home to run under Linux (with RC5 running under OS/2),
> > and want to start it apon bootup with a cron entry. The README file mentioned
> > an "included" set_cron_job script, but the tarball only contained the binary
> > and README file.
> >
> > Can someone explain how to start a cron entry once only?
>
> Don't use cron, use at
>
> man at
>
> For more info
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Justin
> --
> _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!! * LINUX RULES *
> _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
> _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://justinw.net
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ---- Jesus Is Lord ----
It might be a bit dangerous for a newbie to try, but if one just
wants to run something once when booting, it should be put
in /etc/rc.d/rc.local. But one would have to comfortable with
shell programming to do that with confidence.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Eric Wick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape3-Gold
Date: 10 Jul 99 19:17:40 -0100
Hello,
got someone an idea to get the Basefont smaller? On my Note i have
only 640x480 and dont want this big fonts. General Options (sound
military) wont help.
--
ByeBye
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaji Shun)
Subject: Re: LILO hangs on LI
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 07:42:34 GMT
yup, that worked for me too! i was having that nasty "LI" boot
problem. so i got out my win 98 boot disk and ran fdisk /mbr. worked
like a charm. maybe the mbr got just a little out of kilter? the odd
thing is that i only switched between distributions of linux on my
hda, didn't even change file systems!
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 03:18:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I had a machine running linux slackware 2.0 and then I switched to RH6
>and had the same problem with LI. It tuned out to be a problem with
>the MBR. So I created a dos 6.22 boot disk (copied fdisk.* to the
>floppy) and ran fdisk /mbr. Everything worked fine. No more LI at
>boot up for Linux. I could not believe that an old dos command would
>fix it. What a guess.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew W. Roberts)
Subject: Re: Hard disk troubles
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:05:02 -0500
>> Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that now when I first start the
>> system I get the following error:
[etc., etc., etc.]
>
>Personally... I would suspect bad RAM. Does this happen every single time?
This happens whenever I have to hit the reset button because the Debian
install program crashes. I haven't been able to get through the install
yet without a system freeze.
>
>Try getting a hold of memtest-86... seems to do a good job.
>
>-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
>Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.amush.cx/linux/ Fax: +44-8701-600807
>
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From: Madam Blavatsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:08:41 -0700
Christopher B. Browne wrote:
> The irony is in that you didn't realize that you were being trolled.
Nothing to do with irony either. Plus, I responded to _your_ message,
not to the original one. Is it you who's trolling <g>?
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From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 10 Jul 1999 18:54:07 GMT
> You should certainly reinstall the OS from scratch rather than attempting
> to repair the system. You can't be sure which trojan horses the hacker has
> placed there.
a competent admin can recover a system from script kiddies without
much trouble. it's quite interesting that Linux is used more and more
by people who don't even know to install mandatory security patches :(
> The first line of defense are your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
> files. The latter should have the entry
nah. the first line of defense is patches. the second line is ssh.
the third is to avoid installing or immediately remove everything
that you don't use, especially crap like imapd from inetd.
the fourth line is avoiding inherently insecure crap like telnet,
non-anon ftp, rlogin, etc.
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From: "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "find" running after boot - why?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:34:47 GMT
That is a script which is "indexing" the filesystem so you can quickly
find them using the "locate" command when can give instant information.
It is not necessary except for the use of this feature so you can disable
it.
You need to find the cron job or script which runs the "updatedb" script
which does this finding.
Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> maybe it's a stupid question, but I didn't observe this on my former
> Linux installation:
> When I start Linux, almost always a quite busy job is automatically
> started and working on my HD for several minutes, beginning 1 or 2
> minutes after having booted into Linux. top indicates that it is a find
> process owned by the user nobody and (not sure) another one owned by
> root. I am wondering about it, because that never happened on my former
> Linux installation. Why does this happen, and is it necessary or can it
> be turned off (I find it a bit disturbing, as it slows down things)? If
> it can be turned off, how do I do it? BTW, it doesn't seem to do any
> harm.
> I'm on a Debian Linux box (kernel 2.0.34).
> Thanks for any hints,
> Thomas
> --
> --------------------------------------------
> Thomas Ruedas
> Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics,
> J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
> Feldbergstrasse 47 D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
> Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949 Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Teng-Yan Loke)
Subject: RH6 Local Networking with Win95 Clients
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 19:32:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I'm trying to setup a private network for my company using a few Win95
clients and Red Hat 6.0. My kernel is 2.2.5-15.
I would like to have the clients' IP to be 10.0.0.x and the RH6 server
to be 10.0.0.10 (wombat). The domain should be "animal".
For the moment, I've set up the server so that the clients are able to
ping the server both by hostname and IP, which I think means that DNS
is working. The problems I have are:
* telnet and ftp on the client side are able to connect, but it takes
very long before the login prompt appears.
* clients are not able login to the animal domain using their username
and password in Win95 and thereafter the "Network Neighbourhood"
window does not show any other machines in the network.
Can anyone help me with these problems please? I've included 3 files
which may be useful. Thanks in advance.
---start of log.smb---
[1999/07/11 01:35:04, 1] smbd/server.c:main(614)
smbd version 2.0.3 started.
Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998
[1999/07/11 01:37:39, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(407)
write_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:37:39, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(191)
write_socket: Error writing 4 bytes to socket 5: ERRNO = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:37:39, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(568)
Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. Exiting
[1999/07/11 01:38:04, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(407)
write_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:38:04, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(191)
write_socket: Error writing 4 bytes to socket 5: ERRNO = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:38:04, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(568)
Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. Exiting
[1999/07/11 01:44:53, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(407)
write_data: write failure. Error = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:44:53, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_socket(191)
write_socket: Error writing 4 bytes to socket 5: ERRNO = Broken pipe
[1999/07/11 01:44:53, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(568)
Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. Exiting
---end of log.smb---
---start of log.nmb---
[1999/07/11 01:35:05, 1] nmbd/nmbd.c:main(672)
Netbios nameserver version 2.0.3 started.
Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1994-1998
[1999/07/11 01:35:05, 0] nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:add_logon_names(159)
add_domain_logon_names:
Attempting to become logon server for workgroup ANIMAL on subnet
10.0.0.10
[1999/07/11 01:35:05, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:become_domain_master_browser_bcast(284)
become_domain_master_browser_bcast:
Attempting to become domain master browser on workgroup ANIMAL on
subnet 10.0.0.10
[1999/07/11 01:35:05, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:become_domain_master_browser_bcast(298)
become_domain_master_browser_bcast: querying subnet 10.0.0.10 for
domain master browser on workgroup ANIMAL
[1999/07/11 01:35:09, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_logonnames.c:become_logon_server_success(118)
become_logon_server_success: Samba is now a logon server for
workgroup ANIMAL on subnet 10.0.0.10
[1999/07/11 01:35:13, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_become_dmb.c:become_domain_master_stage2(118)
*****
Samba server WOMBAT is now a domain master browser for workgroup
ANIMAL on subnet 10.0.0.10
*****
[1999/07/11 01:35:28, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:become_local_master_stage2(406)
*****
Samba name server WOMBAT is now a local master browser for workgroup
ANIMAL on subnet 10.0.0.10
*****
---end of log.nmb---
---start of testparm.out ---
Load smb config files from /etc/smb.conf
Loaded services file OK.
Press enter to see a dump of your service definitions
# Global parameters
workgroup = ANIMAL
netbios name =
netbios aliases =
server string = Samba Server
interfaces =
bind interfaces only = No
security = USER
encrypt passwords = No
update encrypted = No
use rhosts = No
min passwd length = 5
map to guest = Never
null passwords = No
password server =
smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd
hosts equiv =
root directory = /
passwd program = /bin/passwd
passwd chat = *old*password* %o\n *new*password* %n\n
*new*password* %n\n *changed*
passwd chat debug = No
username map =
password level = 0
username level = 0
unix password sync = No
log level = 0
syslog = 1
syslog only = No
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 100
timestamp logs = Yes
protocol = NT1
read bmpx = Yes
read raw = Yes
write raw = Yes
nt smb support = Yes
nt pipe support = Yes
nt acl support = No
announce version = 4.2
announce as = NT
max mux = 50
max xmit = 65535
name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast
max packet = 65535
max ttl = 259200
max wins ttl = 518400
min wins ttl = 21600
time server = No
change notify timeout = 60
deadtime = 0
getwd cache = Yes
keepalive = 300
lpq cache time = 10
max disk size = 0
max open files = 10000
read prediction = No
read size = 16384
shared mem size = 1048576
socket options = TCP_NODELAY
stat cache size = 50
load printers = Yes
printcap name = /etc/printcap
printer driver file = /etc/printers.def
strip dot = No
character set =
mangled stack = 50
coding system =
client code page = 850
stat cache = Yes
domain groups =
domain admin group =
domain guest group =
domain admin users =
domain guest users =
machine password timeout = 604800
add user script =
delete user script =
logon script =
logon path = \\%N\%U\profile
logon drive =
logon home = \\%N\%U
domain logons = Yes
os level = 33
lm announce = Auto
lm interval = 60
preferred master = Yes
local master = Yes
domain master = Yes
browse list = Yes
dns proxy = No
wins proxy = No
wins server =
wins support = No
kernel oplocks = Yes
ole locking compatibility = Yes
smbrun = /usr/bin/smbrun
config file =
preload =
lock dir = /var/lock/samba
default service =
message command =
dfree command =
valid chars =
remote announce = 10.255.255.255
remote browse sync = 10.0.0.255
socket address = 0.0.0.0
homedir map =
time offset = 0
unix realname = No
NIS homedir = No
panic action =
comment = The Wombat Server
path =
alternate permissions = No
revalidate = No
username =
guest account = nobody
invalid users =
valid users =
admin users =
read list =
write list =
force user =
force group =
read only = Yes
create mask = 0744
force create mode = 00
directory mask = 0755
force directory mode = 00
guest only = No
guest ok = No
only user = No
hosts allow = 10.0.0.
hosts deny =
status = Yes
max connections = 0
min print space = 0
strict sync = No
sync always = No
print ok = No
postscript = No
printing = sysv
print command = lp -c -d%p %s; rm %s
lpq command = lpstat -o%p
lprm command = cancel %p-%j
lppause command = lp -i %p-%j -H hold
lpresume command = lp -i %p-%j -H resume
queuepause command = lpc stop %p
queueresume command = lpc start %p
printer name =
printer driver = NULL
printer driver location =
default case = lower
case sensitive = No
preserve case = Yes
short preserve case = Yes
mangle case = No
mangling char = ~
hide dot files = Yes
delete veto files = No
veto files =
hide files =
veto oplock files =
map system = No
map hidden = No
map archive = Yes
mangled names = Yes
mangled map =
browseable = Yes
blocking locks = Yes
fake oplocks = No
locking = Yes
oplocks = Yes
strict locking = No
share modes = Yes
copy =
include =
exec =
postexec =
root preexec =
root postexec =
available = Yes
volume =
fstype = NTFS
set directory = No
wide links = Yes
follow symlinks = Yes
dont descend =
magic script =
magic output =
delete readonly = No
dos filetimes = No
dos filetime resolution = No
fake directory create times = No
[homes]
comment = Home Directory
read only = No
browseable = No
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
print ok = Yes
browseable = No
[share]
comment = Share Stuff
path = /home/share
guest ok = Yes
browseable = No
available = No
[install]
comment = Install Stuff
path = /home/install
write list = @boss
read only = No
guest ok = Yes
---end of testparm.out ---
----
Teng-Yan Loke aka Cow | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.bigfoot.com/~lokety
Tel +65-96907323 | Fax +65-5526826 | Bumble Bee Labs welcome.to/bbl
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From: "David Hawks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need DEC Keyboard, keyboard mappings?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:38:26 -0400
Reply-To: "David Hawks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello,
I will be telnetting to various VAX/VMS boxes and need a DEC keyboard,
select, find, remove, do keys etc. Do I have to remap the keys? Is there a
terminal emulator out there that remaps the keys automatically? Thanks for
any help.
-- David
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:59:04 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
> #PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
> # Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
> # Vendor id=1274. Device id=1371. Slow devsel. IRQ 11. Master
> #Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128. I/O at 0xe800.
I'm running 2.0.37. Here's my card which is also based on the 1371
chip. I believe you have one of the newer creative/ensoniq cards.
Check on the chips for ES1370 or ES1371:
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq AudioPCI (rev 0).
Slow devsel. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=12.Max
Lat=128.
I/O at 0xd000.
> #alias sound sb
> #options -k sb io=0x220 irq=11 dma=1
Here's a problem. The Ensoniq is not a SB or SB 100% compat. According
to your .config entries below you are running inline sound code not
modules, so these entries in /etc/conf.modules don't do anything.
> i get this on boot up :
> #Sound initialization started
> #Sound initialization complete
> not once did I get something in between :(
Nothing missing.
Jul 10 09:51:48 asus kernel: Sound initialization started
Jul 10 09:51:48 asus kernel: Sound initialization complete
> maybe im missing something in the sound configuration part of compilation?
>
> CONFIG_SOUND=y
> CONFIG_SB=y
> CONFIG_AUDIO=y
> CONFIG_YM3812=y
> SBC_BASE=220
> SBC_IRQ=11
> SBC_DMA=1
> SB_DMA2=-1
> SB_MPU_BASE=388
> SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
> DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
Too much. Try getting rid of everything but this:
CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_AUDIO=y
--
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"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:53:52 GMT
On 10 Jul 1999 13:13:15 -0400, Byron A Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <tVRg3.10785$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-On 07 Jul 1999 21:50:05 +0200, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>->>>>>> Christopher B Browne writes:
>->Christopher> The *killer* part isn't a kernel patch; it's the (probably nonexistent
>->Christopher> at this point) GLIBC patch that is needed to support big files.
>->
>->glibc 2.1 has the full LFS interface. It just needs (on ix86) kernel
>->support and some changes. But you can already
>-
>-I stand corrected, and am glad to see such developments in 2.1; this
>-nonetheless leaves the issue that applications must be coded to use
>-LFS.
>
>But since it's such a small subset of applications anyway, this shouldn't be
>a big deal right?
This represents one of the "Enterprise Computing" requirements; as such,
while the incidence of need may be relatively small, those represent
situations invoving expensive/important boxes, which makes it important
out of proportion to the apparent number of boxes.
--
"The problem with the current Lisp Machine system is that nothing ever calls
anything anymore." -- KMP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:54:04 GMT
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:04:15 GMT, Stewart Honsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
>On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:54:06 -0500, Duane Hellums wrote:
>> I didn't know Jesus was American or British (or any other nationality
>>that speaks English). I thought he spoke Hebrew... How's that fit into
>>the irony vs zealotry and ignorance debate?
>
>It fits into the ignorance category, actually :>
>
>There are a lot of interpretations of exactly what Jesus was. The latest
>one I heard (just relating here - not meaning to offend anybody) is that
>Jesus was/is black, and on armageddon day he'll send all whites to hell
>and the blacks will rejoice in heavan.
>
>The fact that Jesus did not speak english seems to have escaped the original
>poster - hence my ignorance comment.
I seriously doubt that this "escaped" them; they succeeded in eliciting a
response supportive of the notion that you're an *anti*-religious zealot,
which was likely a "win" from their perspective.
>As for the zealot comment - generally when someone brings god into a non-
>religious newsgroup, it means they're somewhat of a zealot.
>
>"My OS is better than your OS!"
>"It is not! As God says ... "
>
>Sort of like the Hitler clause ;>
The "deity" issue is *extremely* apropos. The free software community
has a pretty wide group of "major and minor deities," albeit not of the
conventional theological sort.
If you think that the vigorous fighting is *not* essentially religious
in nature, including believers in the Torvalds cult, the RMS cult, the
set of BSD cults, as well as the MSFT cult, then you aren't looking
nearly closely enough.
The great offense that people take does not normally happen with things
that they are not treating as a religion.
--
"It is the user who should parameterize procedures, not their
creators." -- Alan Perlis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:53:46 GMT
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:05:01 -0700, Madam Blavatsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Christopher B. Browne wrote:
>> It is more likely that he was exercising *irony.*
>How does an assumption that Jesus spoke English qualify as irony? But he
>probably did try to quip, which, unfortunately he failed at.
The irony is in that you didn't realize that you were being trolled.
The *comment* is a somewhat corrupted quote which I seem unable to locate.
Some *truly* ignorant state governor of the last century from one of
the US states regarded as particularly backwards showed his ignorance
by making more-or-less the quote presented.
--
"It is the user who should parameterize procedures, not their
creators." -- Alan Perlis
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