Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #26 Thu, 1 Feb 01 14:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Brian Skahan)
Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (Esteban Flocco)
Re: nameserver not available, Linux network goes down (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: How to access windows partitions from linux? (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: message Log entry help! (John Hasler)
Re: Linux Distribution (D'Arque Bishop)
Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1? (Bill Unruh)
Re: inetd.conf ("Jeff Susanj")
Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x (Andy Piper)
JSP/Servlet implementation of Webmail? (Henrik Sjostrand)
Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Dan Smith)
Re: Kernel NFS problems...help (Matthias Mueller)
Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !! (Noname)
Re: Kernel upgrade (Noname)
Re: VNC - SSH || (Sergiy Zhenochin)
Re: Is FreeBSD Linux ? (Elf Sternberg)
Re: Programming (jaudette)
Re: Linux on Alpha station (Martin Gregorie)
what does this kernel message mean? (arif)
Creating CD from ISO image? (Rob Peacock)
Re: implementation of colored man pages (Martin Gregorie)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Skahan)
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: 1 Feb 2001 17:12:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:25:45 -0500 b/wrote/a �crit
Dan Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > in comp.os.linux.misc :
>I have downloaded and installed Netscape 6 on my LM 7.1 system. When I
>run it, my memory usage goes nuts. The "java_vm" process group takes
>266MB and the "mozilla_bin" set take 130MB. What's the deal? I've got
>512MB of ram, but that puts a major dent in my system (I have 512MB for
>other things, not just Netscape, so it is something I need to resolve).
>
Thats alot worse than I got with NS6 but mine was still unacceptable.
I switched to the mozilla nightly from 01.27.2001 and mozilla-bin now uses
about 30mb (total for all of them).
the other possibilty is to try galeon which is much less of a hog.
--
brian skahan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esteban Flocco)
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:55:57 -0500
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:23:28 +0100, [BRDLocutus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>can anyone here tell me where to find a Linux-Tool to convert Word Documents
>to PS (PDF would be ok, too) ?
>
Hi
You can do that in four steps:
First, convert the doc file to html with wvHtml (though there are
problems with some embedded images). Then, convert the html file to LaTeX
with html2latex. After that, you have to run latex to produce a dvi
file. Finally, you can convert the dvi file to ps with dvips or to pdf
with dvipdf.
--
Saludos,
Esteban Flocco
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nameserver not available, Linux network goes down
Date: 1 Feb 2001 17:33:29 GMT
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But since I was using IP addresses rather than hostnames I don't think
> this would actually come into play.
It wouldn't. DNS converts names to addresses and possibly vice
versa. _That's_it_. (OK, there are MX records, but that's a special case.)
Likewise with /etc/hosts. The failure of name resolution should never
prevent you from pinging by IP address. Is your nameserver serving any
other purpose, like being your gateway? How is your gateway defined, for that
matter? I'm not 100% sure it makes any difference, but your gateway should
probably always be defined numerically, not by name - else you might not be
able to reach it if the nameserver goes down. What's the netmask for your
machines? What's in your /etc/host.conf? Is it possible that the
nameserver is crashing in such a way that it becomes a jabber and prevents
anything else from talking on the network? When the network is down, what's
the output of 'netstat -rn' and 'ifconfig'?
The suggestion to run tcpdump on another machine is a good one. I
would also suggest (while the network is running OK) pinging something else
by numeric address, and disconnecting the nameserver while the ping is
running, just to see if you can reproduce anything that way.
JDW
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to access windows partitions from linux?
Date: 1 Feb 2001 17:47:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I installed linux (redhat 7) with everything on a system that dual boots
> to windows (can't give it up just yet.) I need to pull data off of the
> windows partition from linux but haven't a clue on how this is done.
Can't believe no one has answered this rather simple question yet...
A caveat, though: it depends on exactly what flavor of Windows you're using.
It's a bit different for 3.1/95/98 and NT (and probably different still for
2000). So, assuming you have 95...
Firstly, figure out where your Windows partition(s) is/are. Usually
the first partition of the first disk, since that's what Windows insists on!
So, try this: mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt
You will have to be root to do that. You should see the contents of your
Windows partition appear under /mnt. However, you probably want long
filenames, so try type "vfat" instead of msdos. You probably also don't
want to have to go through all that every time, so add a line like
/dev/hda1 /windows vfat noauto 0 0
to your /etc/fstab. Check the mount and fstab man pages for details.
If you're using NT, your partitions are probably of type NTFS, in
which case you need NTFS support in your kernel (or a module for it).
Things are pretty much as above, except that you'd use type NTFS, and your
partitions will be mounted read-only.
JDW
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: message Log entry help!
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:35:20 GMT
Rob Silver writes:
> You may have been hacked.
No. He may have been _cracked_.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D'Arque Bishop)
Subject: Re: Linux Distribution
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:37:24 GMT
In article <95c51i$gfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> FYI, this linux Distribution will be codenamed "SuperMan Linux".
>
> I predict unwanted attention from Marvel Comics. Ask the maintainers
>of Windowmaker and Saw[mill|fish] about their experiences in the trademark
>arena.
On the other hand, I predict unwanted attention from DC Comics, considering
they're the publishers of Superman comics, not Marvel. :)
(Yes, I know it's nitpicking. So sue me. ;)
Just my $.02...
--
D'Arque Bishop -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ravenloft.net/~drkbish
"For a dark man shall come unto the House of God, and the darkness shall be
upon him, yea, even within him."
-- from Noctropolis: Night Visions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: NFS broken with 2.4.1?
Date: 1 Feb 2001 17:54:10 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
]> > nfs warning: mount version older than kernel
]
]> The message from mount is just telling you that you have a new
]> kernel. Ignore, or make a new mount executable.
]>
]I get this when I boot my machine (in /var/log/messages). But what
]puzzels me is that I get:
]-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 60080 Aug 1 2000 /bin/mount
]-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 870767 Aug 1 2000 /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-VA.2.1smp
]valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ rpm -q mount kernel
]mount-2.10m-2.2
]kernel-2.2.14-VA.2.1
]Do you mean I should find a newer version of mount, or that I should
]just "touch" it?
Nothing cares when you happen to have last used the file. Get a new
version of mount.
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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd.conf
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:38:03 GMT
I am not at home so I can't see what is on my system but is there an
xinetd.conf? RedHat 7 used xinetd instead of inetd although the conf file
only had a pointer to another directory of scripts, one per service. You
could add services by adding a script or by editing an existing script and
turning off the 'disable' flag. When I installed 7.0 nearly everything was
enabled so I had to disable what I didn't use (which was everything. I then
turned off xinetd).
Jeff S.
"jhuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just installed RH 7.0 (workstation install) and wanted to turn on
> telnet so I went to /etc/inted.conf and it was not there....does anyone
> know how I can turn telnet on or where I can configure what services get
>
> turned on if there is no inetd.conf file?
>
> thx....
>
>
>
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:21:06 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Holdoway wrote:
>
> I've upgraded RedHat 6.2 to 2.4.0, but without glibc 2.2. It's running
> fine, supporting Oracle 8.1.7, lvm and IBM jfs on an SMP platform.
>
> So, what's your problem?
*My* problem is that the boot sequence hangs right at the time where
it tries to start the xfs server on RH 6.2 / kernel 2.4.0.... but I
guess you won't have seen that, since you're presumably running in a
server configuration?
--
Andy Piper - Fareham, Hampshire (UK)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ #86489434
http://www.andyp.uklinux.net
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From: Henrik Sjostrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: JSP/Servlet implementation of Webmail?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:11:08 GMT
Hi,
Anyone knows of any webmail (http mail) solution that's implemented as
Servlets/JSP's? I'm setting up a Linux box with web and mail servers
and would like a webmail interface to my mail boxes.
Thanks in advance
Henrik Sjostrand
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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:59:23 -0500
Well, while waiting for a response, I found some info that suggested I
try Mozilla 0.7... So I did. It is much better, but nowhere near what
it should be. It doesn't seem to have the "java_vm" process group that
NS6 did (which was the majority of the mem), but it still takes a lot.
With a browser, mail, and message window open, Mozilla is currently
using 174MB. What's the DEAL???? How much memory do you have? I
thought maybe it thinks that since I have so much RAM, that it can be
bigger.
Also, I have no swap active right now (since a drive died and I haven't
activated another one, since I have so much RAM). Do you think that
Mozilla can control what gets swapped out, and expects to be able to
move a lot of itself to disk?
Thanks!
--Dan
Brian Skahan wrote:
> Am Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:25:45 -0500 b/wrote/a �crit
> Dan Smith < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > in comp.os.linux.misc :
>
>
>> I have downloaded and installed Netscape 6 on my LM 7.1 system. When I
>> run it, my memory usage goes nuts. The "java_vm" process group takes
>> 266MB and the "mozilla_bin" set take 130MB. What's the deal? I've got
>> 512MB of ram, but that puts a major dent in my system (I have 512MB for
>> other things, not just Netscape, so it is something I need to resolve).
>>
>
>
> Thats alot worse than I got with NS6 but mine was still unacceptable.
>
> I switched to the mozilla nightly from 01.27.2001 and mozilla-bin now uses
> about 30mb (total for all of them).
>
> the other possibilty is to try galeon which is much less of a hog.
>
> --
>
> brian skahan
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From: Matthias Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel NFS problems...help
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:42:22 +0100
In comp.os.linux.networking Bob Sully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right - I can mount ext2 shares without problems with the new kernels;
> only the VFAT dirs do not work. I'm surprised that no one else has
> mentioned this....?
Not only VFAT, but also iso9660 Filesystems, but a friend of mine told
me to try it with the newest nfs-utils. With 2.2.17 everything worked
fine.
Bye,
Matthias
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rechenzentrum Universitaet Karlsruhe
Abteilung Netze
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From: Noname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 - Memory Usage !!
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:18:59 GMT
I know this would sound stupid since you have 512MB of memory, but is
it possible that swapping is not enabled?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have downloaded and installed Netscape 6 on my LM 7.1 system. When
I
> run it, my memory usage goes nuts. The "java_vm" process group takes
> 266MB and the "mozilla_bin" set take 130MB. What's the deal? I've
got
> 512MB of ram, but that puts a major dent in my system (I have 512MB
for
> other things, not just Netscape, so it is something I need to
resolve).
>
> Does anyone know about this?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> --Dan
>
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From: Noname <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:16:26 GMT
I don't remember doing "make modules" or "make modules_install"
What I usually do is:
"make dep clean bzImage bzlilo"
Thanks for the advice
>
> You should have already had a directory /lib/modules/2.4.0, after
running
> "make modules" and "make modules_install". Do you have a new enough
> version of modutils installed? See Documentation/Changes in the
kernel
> source code.
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto
> This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any
images,
> hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
> and may be a violation of international copyright law.
>
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From: Sergiy Zhenochin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VNC - SSH ||
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:17:42 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I did not quite ask what I wanted to: how to tunnel the NT-Linux connection
through SSH ?
Thanks
"Sergiy P. Zhenochin" wrote:
> I would like to access Linux box from NT using vnc. Does anyone know how to
> do it? It seems that explanations in the documentation apply to the client
> running on Linux, not on NT.
> Thanks,
> Sergiy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD Linux ?
Date: 1 Feb 2001 18:19:44 GMT
In article <XW4e6.2958$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Is FreeBSD Linux ?
No. *BSD (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and others) is a Unix
kernel developed by the Berkeley Software Group in the late 1980s and
early 1990s. If it hadn't been for AT&T (which at the time owned the
Unix trademark) suing the Berkeley group and preventing its widespread
release, we'd all be using BSD and Linux would be an interesting side
project. But because it was held up in the courts, Linus's release of
his kernel made Linux the defacto "free Unix" to play with.
>I'm trying to figure out FreeBSD. I'm currently using RedHat 7, and
>I'm happy with it.
RedHat 7 is a Linux kernel with a variety of tools, some GPL,
some not, wrapped around it. Just remember: X is not Linux; the shell
is not Linux. Those are additional tools wrapped around a kernel.
FreeBSD is a kernel.
If you look, almost all of the tools you'll find on both FreeBSD
and Linux are built from the same source code. The only difference is
in their assemblage into programs; Linux and FreeBSD have different
access points to things like filesystems, modems, networks, and things
like that, although from the outside the networking all looks the same
(Internet TCP/IP).
>I read that FreeBSD uses Mach 3.0 kernel. Correct? Or does FreeBSD
>use the Linux kernel? What is Mach? How is Mach related to Linux?
>What about NetBSD or OpenBSD?
They're all *different* kernels. Some are designed to be
compatible with other kernels, either at compilation or execution time.
Which one you choose depends entirely on your needs.
Linux is the cutting-edge system; it's where all the
experimentation gets done and things like Journal File Systems and
kernel-level server hacks get developed. It's also very
high-performance and often seems optimized for desktop applications.
While it's far more stable than any Windows, it's still one that has
more "beta" software in it than others.
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD are all variant distributions of
the BSD core kernel. Their differences lie in their philosophies:
FreeBSD was meant to be the best-performing x86 kernel; OpenBSD is the
most secure, with a line-by-line security review conducted on every
release; NetBSD has been ported to the widest array of architectures,
even moreso than Linux.
All of these are Monolithic; that is, one core program, the
kernel, does everything: running programs, managing the filesystems,
communicating with network peripherals, controlling access to the
printer, and so on. Mach kernels (such as the GNU Hurd project) are
different; one tiny kernel does nothing but run the programs; other
programs do all of the other things, and the core kernel grants
permissions to these other programs. The trade off is that there's
less performance, but much greater adaptability.
>Is Linux Unix? What's the difference between Linux and Unix?
Unix is a trademark, currently owned, I beleive, by a consortium
called "The Open Group." To have any distribution of Linux branded with
the Unix trademark would require that some distributor pay tens of
thousands of dollars and pass some tests stating that the core
operational abilities of Linux fall within the parameters of the Unix98
Standard.
All of the currently running "Unix" systems, like Solaris, BSD,
HP/UX, Ultrix, and so on, pass this test and have paid their money.
Nobody on the Linux side has done so yet that I know of, but the Linux
interface and associated tools are so close as to make no difference.
Confusing this issue further is something called Posix, which is
yet another standard, the standard for communicating with the kernel via
library calls. There are two common Posix standards that people worry
about: Posix One and Posix Four. Almost all Unixes are Posix One
compliant; very few are Posix Four.
>Can software written for Linux run on BSD systems?
Few people write software "for Linux." Linux 2.4.0 has some
serious performance hacks, like the asynchronus I/O system (even better
than that outlined in Posix Four) and kernel-level file serving through
HTTP, but those are on top of its Unix-compatible interface. If you
write "to Unix," as most programs are, then anything you write on your
Linux box will run on BSD, Solaris, HP-UX, and so on.
Some things are special. 3D graphics, for example, requires a
familiarity with 3D chipsets and the knowledge that a certain 3D library
will be available only on some systems. If you want to use GTK and
Gnome, realize that these are available only on some systems because
they're so large and complex that assuring their portability is
sometimes the real problem.
Ever run "./configure" for building a program? Although Unixes
are "close," they are rarely "exact," and "configure" is the horrible
compromise we programmers have agreed on as a way to find all the
differences between Unixes and make the subtle changes needed to make
our programs build on a multitude of OSes. "./configure" is the way we
detect if your unix uses flock() or fcntl() to guard files, if your
stdio.h file is broken, and so on, and if we've ported our program to
your unix, we can compensate for these minor differences.
Elf
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http://www.halcyon.com/elf/
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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From: jaudette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Programming
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:49:05 -0800
I wrote a simple script that runs as a cron job. It tells me if a server
has been
up more than a certain number of days, then emails me if it has
store=`uname -n`
terml=`who -m | cut -c12-16`
updays=`uptime | cut -c14`
if [ "$updays" -ge 120 ] then mail "-s uptime at "$store" exceeds 120
days" [EMAIL PROTECTED] </usr/inpharm/bin/upmessage
where upmessage is a text file
This is a SCO server, so the cut positions might be different on linux
On 1 Feb 2001, Stephen Rank wrote:
> Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Dave Barcelo wrote:
> > >
> > > I need to write a program that will tell me how long it has been since
> > > the last reboot. I want to get the answer in dd:hh:mm:ss format.
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > man uptime
>
> or:
>
> cat /proc/uptime
>
> and do the maths ;)
>
> first figure is uptime in seconds (2nd is idle time, also in seconds,
> FYI).
>
> HTH,
>
> Stephen
>
> --
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.dur.ac.uk/stephen.rank/
> smail: Research Institute for Software Evolution,
> Department of Computer Science, University of Durham, U.K.
> icbm: 1 deg 34' 8'' West, 54 deg 46' 3'' North
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: Linux on Alpha station
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:56:24 GMT
On 01 Feb 2001 16:50:17 +0000, Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>`microemacs' is a small-footprint emacs clone, isn't it? I should
>have thought that vanilla emacs/xemacs would run acceptably on a
>600MHz Alpha with 512M of RAM...
>
You're right - that's what it is. Written entirely in C so its pretty
fast.
I've used it for a long time (its the standard editor for Microware's
OS/9) and like its configurability. On top of that, by now I have a
set of macro files for it that implement some addons and cause it to
work identically no matter what platform its on or what terminal is
being used provided it has 10 function keys plus the usual arrow, Page
dn/up and home/end keys.
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com | +44 020 76379111
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From: arif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what does this kernel message mean?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:06:48 -0500
I was looking through my logs on a newly installed suse 7.0 system, and
saw this message: I've got no idea what it is though... can anyone help?
Jan 31 00:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 00:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 01:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 01:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 01:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 02:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 02:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 02:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 03:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 03:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 03:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 04:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 04:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 04:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 05:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 05:27:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 05:47:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 06:07:31 linux -- MARK --
Jan 31 06:27:31 linux -- MARK --
-arif
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From: Rob Peacock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creating CD from ISO image?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:01:20 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey all...
I searched this newsgroup for an answer before I posted so please
don't hammer me for asking.
I am trying to burn a copy of RH7 from the ISO images downloaded from
ftp.freesoftware.com using my Mac but am having some issues.
(The only good use of a PC is with Linux installed on it.)
I have a a Mac 8500, 132Mhz, 304Meg RAM, all SCSI drives, and a SCSI
Smart &Friendly SAF759 burner. I'm using Adaptec Toast 3.5.7 and
haven't had an issue making Mac CD's in the past.
This is the first time I have tried to make an ISO CD and am not sure
how to go about it. I did RTFM but it focused more on how to build
hybrid Mac/ISO9660 cd's, and only then, building them from scratch. It
also appears that when they talk about building a CD from an image,
they are talking about making it from a Mac disk image.
When I tried to follow what I thought they were saying, the progress
bar just froze. There didn't appear to be any CD activity although the
hard drive light stayed on for a while. When I checked the CD, it was
still unburned and had no content.
Anyone have any experience / advice?
Thanks,
--->Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: implementation of colored man pages
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:08:57 GMT
On 01 Feb 2001 04:43:37 -0900, Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Be aware that any program which does not use either terminfo or
>termcap for terminal attributes, is broken. It is an absolute
>abomination to hard code terminal attributes into any
>application.
>
I couldn't agree more.
How many times have you met older DOS programs with hardwired codes
for ANSI.SYS and UNIX programs with VT100 codes hardwired in. What a
complete pain.
> However, termcap is of BSD origins and terminfo
>originated with AT&T.
>They provide much the same functionality;
>however, terminfo will eventually completely push termcap aside.
>But termcap does exist for legacy apps.
>
My main point was that the 'invisible' unification of termcap and
terminfo inside Linux that results from the way that the termcap
library has been reimplemented on top of terminfo may not work for all
PD programs.
This especially applies those that are commonly used outside the
*n[iu]x world - simply because they provide their own built-in termcap
library as a defense against the poor termcap implementations in some
environments. Its no big deal provided you are aware that this may
require you to make parallel changes to both the terminfo database and
to /etc/termcap
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