Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #23 Wed, 29 Mar 00 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: PPP can only start as root? (vsteel)
Re: PPP problem (vsteel)
Cleaning Netscape 4.72 Plug-Ins (Kevin Adams)
Re: Duplicating hard disk ("Christopher J. Mark")
Re: Running Linux 6.1 ("Joseph")
Re: Cleaning Netscape 4.72 Plug-Ins (Mickey Stein)
segmentation fault & other crashes ("Christopher J. Mark")
Re: Running Linux 6.1 (Patricia)
Re: staroffice running slowly (Carl Fink)
Re: SSH authentication ? (Robert Heller)
Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install (Rod Brick)
Re: qmail? ("David ..")
Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD (Dances With Crows)
Newbie- Linux on a Laptop ("Nol")
Re: Q: Copying filesystem to CD and then running from CD? (Sitaram Chamarty)
password screen blanker (Yan Seiner)
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (Francois Labreque)
kernel patch (jauming)
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From: vsteel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPP can only start as root?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:15:32 -0700
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> vsteel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >message is generated about ppp not available in the kernel or the module
> >can't be found. A regular user can't run kppp but if he runs pppd and
> >lets it try to negotiate ppp while there is no connection and fail, kppp
> >will then work.
>
> kppp has bugs. Either use a method which does not use kppp, or update
> your kppp.
You are correct, I checked and there was a later version of kppp. There
were notes that said that with the 2.2.14 kernel there was a change
which caused the error that I had.
thanks for the help everyone.
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From: vsteel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: PPP problem
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:20:11 -0700
Chris Davis wrote:
>
> Anyone seen this problem before? I have PPP running fine on one of my
> machines, but I'm having difficulty solving this problem on my laptop.
> Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> This is reported by kppp upon start up:
>
> "This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel
> module loader.
> To solve this problem:
> * contact your system administrator
> or
> * install a kernel with PPP support"
>
> I've recompiled my kernel (many times over) with PPP support enabled,
> both as a module and built-in and still get the same message.
>
> This is what is found in /var/log/messages:
> PPP: version 2.3.7 (deman dialing)
> PPP line discipline registered.
>
> No other messages are reported when kppp is started.
>
> I noticed that lsmod does not show ppp or slhc loaded. Not sure why.
>
> If it is not obvious, I'm running RH6.1. Kernel version 2.2.12-20.
>
> I'll be happy to provide any more information that i may have
> inadvertently omitted.
>
> TIA,
> chris
I had the same problem, get the latest version of kppp (I have kernel
2.2.14) The latest version of kppp fixes this.
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From: Kevin Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Cleaning Netscape 4.72 Plug-Ins
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:27:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I'm cleaning up/removing unneeded Plug-Ins
for Netscape Communicator 4.72 (glibc version). I'm
pretty much done, except I need help with some files
from my "/opt/netscape/plugins" sub-dir:
/opt/netscape/plugins
RAObserver.class (RealPlayer)
RAPlayer.class (RealPlayer)
ShockwaveFlash.class (Shockwave/Flash)
cpPack1.jar (??? what uses this ???)
libflashplayer.so (Shockwave/Flash)
libnullplugin.so (Null Plug-In)
plugger.so (Basic MIME Plug-In)
What uses cpPack1.jar?
I also downloaded and installed RealPlayer 7-Beta.
It put the following files in my
"$HOME/.netscape/plugins" sub-dir:
$HOME/.netscape/plugins
raclass.zip (RealPlayer)
rpnp.so (RealPlayer)
Does this mean I can remove "RAObserver.class" and
"RAPlayer.class", above?
System Background:
SuSE Linux 6.3
Netscape Comm 4.72 (glibc, 128 bit encryp)
RealPlayer 7-Beta LiveConnect Plug-In
Shockwave/Flash 4.0r12 Plug-In
Plugger 3.2 Plug-In
Acrobat Reader 4.0 as "Helper Application"
Any info is much appreciated...
Thank You and Best Regards,
Kevin Adams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Christopher J. Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Duplicating hard disk
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:37:19 -0500
Get yourself a copy of PartitonMagic from PowerQuest. (About $60, the best
investment I ever made). Create a rescue disk and boot from that. Copy your
partitons over, then resize them to whatever size you want.
Note: If the new HD is not going to be the same device (/dev/hda?) as the
old one, you will have to edit your fstab to reflect the new locations. If
you know in advance how you want it you should be able to do it beforehand,
but I would probably copy the partitons first, then boot from a Linux
rescue floppy, mount the (new!) partition containing /etc and then edit it.
You'll also have to reinstall LILO or use the BootMagic utility that comes
bundled with PartitionMagic.
Thorsten Bucksch wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Briefly:
> Up to now I have been sharing 1 hard disk with Linux and another OS.
> Now I have built a new hard disk into my computer and want to copy my
> linux partitions from the first to the second HD without re-installing
> Linux.
>
> Using dd seem to be convenient but when doing this the partition is
> copied raw as it is, i.e. after successful copying a "df " on the copy
> shows the same size as the master partition.
>
> How can I arrange to duplicate a small Linux partition to a larger one?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Thorsten
--
Christopher J. Mark
Mathematician, Tutor, and Web Developer
http://4HiMarks.com
"Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana."
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From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linux 6.1
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:33:33 -0500
Installed LInux now what?
Did you configure the X Server??
>From your description it seems that you got a text login.
That means that your system stated up in run level 3.
Before you set up X Windows, please make a user account . By all means try
to avoid using the 'root' account for anything other than system
maintenance.
Ok, here goes:
Make a group first . users have a user name, and a group that they belong
to.
Make a group called kangaroo, and then a user kangaroo1, and then set the
user's password
groupadd kangaroo (ENTER or RETURN)
useradd -g kangaroo kangaroo1 (ENTER or RETURN)
passwd kangaroo1 (ENTER or RETURN)
<enter the password twice>
Now, press alt+f2 . You should see another prompt (hint: alt+ (f 1- f6 are
6 consoles)
log in as the user you just created, kangaroo1
then at the command prompt type:
startx
et voila!!,
you're at the GUI!!!
How to exit X : try ctrl+ backspace or ctrl+alt+backspace .Ofcourse, this is
a very ugly way and may cause a core dump!!
Better to logout.
That logout will log you out of the Graphical User Interface, and bring you
back to the command prompt where you started X with startx
before getting into X, some useful info on rh files.
X configuration file is in /etc/X or /etc/X11 ( I can't remember clearly)
to find out, type "cd /etc/X" and then hit the tab key. Tab tries to auto
complete the path. if there is more than one match, it will be silent. Then
hit tab twice to see all the matches. If there are no matches, it will beep!
Well, in that directory, there should be a file "XF86Config"
This is what controls your Graphical system.
As for documentation, I would first suggest putting that install cd into an
other computer in an os you are familiar with and go through the
documentation in the docs folder. If that does not help , head over to
tucows
http://howto.tucows.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>I just install linux, and config it completely. After I type in my login
>name, and pass, what do I do to get to the OS? Just dont tell me that
>Linux 6.1 is look-a-like MS-DOS, because if it is, I m gonna throw all my
>linux and, bang it. I m so fustrated that I cant (or should I say: No
>manual for using linux). Can some one tell me what to do, or some web
>sites?
>
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
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From: Mickey Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cleaning Netscape 4.72 Plug-Ins
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:48:57 -0800
Not sure , but cppack1.jar is a part of the regular netscape
distribution. (and it would hold some java classes I
suppose). Did you happen to install the "Netscape calendar"
option? Oh never mind. I see what it is. It's for the
netscape composer function so you might have problems even
with netscape email if you get rid of it.
Mick
Kevin Adams wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm cleaning up/removing unneeded Plug-Ins
> for Netscape Communicator 4.72 (glibc version). I'm
> pretty much done, except I need help with some files
> from my "/opt/netscape/plugins" sub-dir:
>
> /opt/netscape/plugins
>
> RAObserver.class (RealPlayer)
> RAPlayer.class (RealPlayer)
> ShockwaveFlash.class (Shockwave/Flash)
> cpPack1.jar (??? what uses this ???)
> libflashplayer.so (Shockwave/Flash)
> libnullplugin.so (Null Plug-In)
> plugger.so (Basic MIME Plug-In)
>
> What uses cpPack1.jar?
>
> I also downloaded and installed RealPlayer 7-Beta.
> It put the following files in my
> "$HOME/.netscape/plugins" sub-dir:
>
> $HOME/.netscape/plugins
>
> raclass.zip (RealPlayer)
> rpnp.so (RealPlayer)
>
> Does this mean I can remove "RAObserver.class" and
> "RAPlayer.class", above?
>
> System Background:
>
> SuSE Linux 6.3
> Netscape Comm 4.72 (glibc, 128 bit encryp)
> RealPlayer 7-Beta LiveConnect Plug-In
> Shockwave/Flash 4.0r12 Plug-In
> Plugger 3.2 Plug-In
> Acrobat Reader 4.0 as "Helper Application"
>
> Any info is much appreciated...
>
> Thank You and Best Regards,
>
> Kevin Adams
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Christopher J. Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: segmentation fault & other crashes
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:01:23 -0500
I'm using SuSE 6.2 on a socket 3 mobo with a 586/133 and 32 MB of FP RAM
as a router between my LAN and the Internet.
Problem: From time-to-time the system crashes. Sometimes it informs me
about a "segmentation fault" (no matter what I try to do, even something
as innocuous as pine). Sometimes it won't even do that and just freezes.
The most mysterious is when I get a login prompt (even though I'm
already logged in). I enter my username and password and get another
login prompt!
The only way I have found to correct it is to reboot (usually a hard
reboot involving forced checks, etc.).
I have a socket 5 mobo with a Pentium 120, and up to 80 MB of FP RAM
I'm planning to install, but I only have a few hours a night after work
to mess around and I can't be offline for days.
I need to know if:
1) swapping the mobo/CPU will cure my problem.
2) doing so will require reinstalling Linux.
Additional config info: I tried to optimize performance by splitting the
work between 3 HDs.
/dev/hda (1 GB) has /boot, /, /usr, and a small (32 MB) swap partition.
/dev/hdb is the CD-ROM
/dev/hdc (1.7 GB) is /home, and
/dev/hdd (1 GB) is /opt and another (128 MB) swap. (The latter 2 are
running off an add-on IDE controller card.)
All the HD's are rather old, and I'm afraid the segmentation fault might
be caused by one of them. The BIOS is old enough that it can't handle
modern HD sizes, and there's no way I'm paying $70+ for a new 2 (or even
4) Gig disk when 10 GB's are selling for $100. Besides, I have plenty of
disk space on my other boxes.
I'm not even running X windows, so that can't be the problem either.
An email reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be appreciated.
--
Christopher J. Mark
Mathematician, Tutor, and Web Developer
http://4HiMarks.com
"Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana."
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From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linux 6.1
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:57:56 +0200
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I just install linux, and config it completely. After I type in my login
>name, and pass, what do I do to get to the OS? Just dont tell me that
>Linux 6.1 is look-a-like MS-DOS, because if it is, I m gonna throw all my
>linux and, bang it. I m so fustrated that I cant (or should I say: No
>manual for using linux). Can some one tell me what to do, or some web
>sites?
>
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
Hi
try typing startx
--
HTH :)
Patricia
http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
Kernel 2.2.5-15
2:58am up 5 days, 13:19, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.13
Thu Mar 30 02:58:25 CEST 2000
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: staroffice running slowly
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29 Mar 2000 18:52:35 GMT Karel Jansens <jansens_at_ibm_dot_net> wrote:
>Then buy Applix Office. It's both lean and with all the usual features
>(Oh, and it also puts text on paper <G>).
I prefer WordPerfect, m'self.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis. See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH authentication ?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:19:05 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:37:25 GMT, wrote :
a> Below is a summary of the steps that have been described in the man
a> pages of the SSH1 protocol authentication. However I'm hoping someone
a> can clerify them for me since it does not make any logical sense.
a>
a> Here is where my confusion is:
a> a). In # 2 the MAN page said that the Server send it's Public key and
a> the Clients Public key to the Client. However what is there to prevent
a> a fake Server from sending that same Public key and the Clients Public
a> key to the client ?
The *Public* keys only make sense with respect to a matching set of
*Private* keys. The *Private* keys are *never* transmitted or
disclosed. When the server (or client) gets a public key it uses it to
decrypt something encrypted with the corresponding private key (or it
encrypts something with the public key, which the other guy decrypts
with the private key. The fake server can't do much without the private
key that matches the public key.
a> b). In # 4 the the client then generates a random 256 bit number which
a> is encrypted using the Clients Public key and the Server Public key. If
a> that is the case how is the Server supose to decrypt the random number
a> since it would only know the Server Private key and not the Clients
a> Private key ?
a>
a> If someone can clerify the whole process that would be great.
a> Thanks.
a>
a> ------------------------------------------------
a> 1. First a user types: ssh servername.ca
a> In Unix\Linux the client computer reads the ~user/.ssh/config and
a> the /etc/ssh/ssh_config files.
a> (Each client has a 1024 bit key to identify itself, and each server key
a> is 768 bits, and this RSA key is regenerated by the Server every hour it
a> is used or when the daemon starts.)
a> 2. Once the client connects to the Server, the Server uses the RSA
a> Cipher algorighm and sends:
a> Server Public Key + Client Public Key which is stored on the server
a> /etc/ssh_known_hosts
a> (Client Public key was already on the Server since it was placed there
a> during the very first connection to the Server.)
a> 3. Now the client check the Server Public Key against the one in it's
a> own list of ssh_known_hosts, and if
a> it's a match then we know it's the same Server. (Prevents Spoofing.)
a> 4. The client then generates a 256 bit random number and encrypts it
a> using the client public key and the Server public key. This encrypted
a> number is then send to the server which only the Server can decrypt
a> using it's private key.
*Exactly* -- Only the *ligit* Server has the private key.
a> 5. Now both sides use this random number as a session key to encrypt all
a> the communication during the connection. The rest of the session is
a> encrypted using the default cypher IDEA.
a> 6. In the final step the client tries to authenticate itself using
a> password authentication. The .rhosts authentication is disabled by
a> default on the Server, since it is insecure. The Server can be
a> configured using command line options which will override the config
a> file.
a>
a>
a> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
a> Before you buy.
a>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Rod Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:11:17 GMT
> 1. Why, after doing a ' ls ' from the root dir ' / ' do all
Somewhere in your system the ls command is defaulting to 'ls -F'
Basically, '/' means it's a directory, '*' means it's executable, '@'
means it's a symlink. There's probably some environment variable,
LSOPTIONS, or something like that which is setting this. I have no idea
where it gets set.
> 2. Why, after createing a new file on the server that I
> loaded the os on, do all filenames end with an '*' ie: firstfile*
See answer to 1.
> 3. How do I set the linux xwindow system to kde.
I'm not too familiar with either RH or X, but look in your home (/root
for root user) directory. Do a 'ls -al' There should be some .X?????
files there. Specifically, look at .Xclients-default or .Xdefaults. I
think maybe you can change your window manager from there. But you need
to have the window manager installed for it to actually work. You might
take a look at any X HOWTO documents you can find. Very helpful.
--
Rod Brick
PSW Technologies
Austin, Texas
http://www.psw.com
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: qmail?
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:19:58 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Anyone using qmail on Linux for a large scale email host?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> --
>
> John Conover, Open Source Group, 50 Airport Parkway, San Jose, CA 95110
> Tel: 408.437.7726, Fax: 408.437.4978, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.opensourcegroup.com, http://www.johncon.com
The ISP I use uses it. They are the largest & fastest ISP in the area
with 5 T1 lines if that tells you anything. My ISP is not the same as
the email address I use for newsgroups either.
--
Due to extreme SPAM abuse! Remove z's and x's from above to reply.
Thank the spammer's A..holes that they are. Still can't reach me?
Then your address range is already blocked due to previous spam.
Sorry! I hate spam!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:24:48 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:30:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I am trying to reinstall windows 98 in my computer that in now Linux
>formated but I just can't make the DOS/windows boot disk (or CD) recognize
>the drive C. Haw can I reformat my HD for DOS/windows??
Read the FAQ, eh? Since you provided so little information, there's not
much I can tell you other than to try this:
Get a Linux rescue disk and boot from it. Then,
# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
This will zero out the MBR, bypassing the brain-damaged DOS FDISK entirely
and making Winblows think the drive has absolutely nothing on it.
Installation afterwards should be a matter of booting from the Winblows
CD, and waiting, and waiting, and rebooting, and suffering...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Nol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie- Linux on a Laptop
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:21:15 GMT
Hello. I have a 486 DX4 laptop with 75 MHZ, 8 MB RAM, SVGA, and 500 MB HD. I
have Linux Mandrake 6.0 and i use that one some of my desktops and i can't
get it on my laptop. I am not very good at linux. I have only been using
Linux for less than half a year and i only use it every once in a while. I
am wanting to put Linux on my laptop but it dosn't have a CD-ROM, only a
floppy drive. What i am looking for is a version of Linux that i cna
download and put on floppys (not more than 10) and install it onto my
laptop. And if you could help me there i would like some information on how
to install it, like if i would need to download it on my other Linux box and
put it on disks or if i can just download it on my Windows box and put it on
disks. Thank you for your help.
Nol
--
If you are confused at what I just said then
don't worry cuz I just confused my self.
Nol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Subject: Re: Q: Copying filesystem to CD and then running from CD?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:38:22 GMT
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:20:25 GMT, Lincoln Yeoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a way to copy most of my filesystem to a CD (CD-R,CD-RW etc) and
>then booting and running from the CD?
Not as simple as you think. But it's fun, and I really enjoyed
doing it:
http://www.dim.com/~sitaram/linux-live-cd
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: password screen blanker
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:57:27 -0500
RH 6.0
text mode
screen blanker comes on after a few minutes
How do I set this up to automatically require a password once the screen
blanks?
--Yan
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:52:20 -0500
From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Robert Heller wrote:
>
> other than a machine made by Zerox, Corp.
Xerox, with an X!
> In an
> 'informal' sense, Linux is effectively just another flavor of UNIX, but
> if you are selling a product lawyers from AT&T (or Lucent?) will be all
> over you if you refer to Linux as UNIX. UNIX is a *trademark* of Bell
> Labs/AT&T/Lucent.
I thought they sold it to Novell who then sold it to SCO.
--
Francois Labreque | The surest sign of the existence of extra-
flabreq | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
@ | bothered to come down here and visit us!
attglobal.net - Calvin
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From: jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel patch
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:52:23 GMT
[kernel patch]
is it possible to do an online binary patch to linux kernel?
thanks in advanced!:)
please also reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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regards
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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