Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #19 Fri, 30 Apr 99 04:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (James Lee)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: Really big hd under linux (Christopher Mahmood)
DSL modems under Linux (Jason Rotunno)
Re: 2+ Gb RAM (Christopher Mahmood)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Jim Richardson)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are theLinux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Michael John Erskine)
LOCALHOST question...whoa baby! (Jason)
Re: making linux go away ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Moving Linux... (michael)
Re: More newbie questions... (Ken Arromdee)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
(Mike)
Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler (Toke Gaarde Schmidt)
Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler (Toke Gaarde Schmidt)
Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay. ("Gideon le Grange")
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 14:10:58 -0500
When my significant other started using the computer, she had no clues
about everyting, and since I use vi a lot, I taught her vi on a unix
machine. Since then, she uses the vi as her editor, and even on
windows machines, we still use the vi (elvis).
When recently she had to use the macintosh, she started screaming at
me. What happened to the ESC, the i (insert), the o(open line) key?
vi BECAME intuitive to her. Mouse keys aren't. After a few weeks,
these complaints have died down. Granted, she still occasionaly uses
the ESC key, etc on the mac, but she is slowly getting used to it.
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:06:53 -0700
why are you guys installing bleeding-edge kernels anyway and libs
anyway? Updating the system libs and the kernel is not something
to be done just for the hell of it.
Have you checked what the library requirements for staroffice are?
I seriously doubt they include glibc 2.1...
-ckm
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Really big hd under linux
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:10:36 -0700
you are generally better off performance-wise having several
smaller disks instead of one massive one, not to mention that
upgrades are much easier. You may want to read the howto
on this,
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Rotunno)
Subject: DSL modems under Linux
Date: 29 Apr 1999 14:47:25 GMT
quick question...are dsl modems supported under linux? if they're not
much different than regular modems that i don't see why not, but i wanted
to confirm this or hear otherwise.
anyone using dsl w/ linux that have good/bad comments?
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2+ Gb RAM
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:31:12 -0700
this has been an ongoing debate since the mindcraft "benchmarks".
you should find lots of info in dejanews. (If you can afford 4GB
of ram, why are you running a pee-cee anyway? buy an alpha)
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 30 Apr 1999 01:34:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:50:48 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Karl Marx also began the labour camps that killed millions of Russians, and
>>the agricultural policies that starved millions more.
>> A real saint was ol' Karl
>>
> I think you're unfair to Karl Marx. Other people took his ideas
>and distorted them and did things in his name. At one point he even said
>(in French, for some reason) "I am not a Marxist". Lenin, Stalin, Chairman
>Mao, yes, they sent people to labor camps, persecuted dissenters, etc, while
>espousing Communism. Other dictators who did not profess Marxism or
>Communism did similar things. It's like religion, they invoke some rationale
>for their actions to get people to follow them.
>
>>
You are absolutely correct! I typed Karl Marx when I should have typed
Lenin (oops)
Lenin did all these things. Marx was simply clueless.
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 30 Apr 1999 01:34:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27 Apr 1999 10:48:42 -0600,
bgeer, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson) writes:
>
> >Karl Marx also began the labour camps that killed millions of Russians, and
> >the agricultural policies that starved millions more.
> > A real saint was ol' Karl
s/Karl Marx/Vladimir Lenin/
>
>So what the hell is your point?
>
>Do you have one at all?
>
>& what does this have to do with Linux?
>
>By any reasonable criteria it is totally irrelevant to Linux.
>
>For curiousity's sake, read a dictionary definition of "fascism".
>Most [USA} business enterprises are operated on criteria that parallel
>fascism. What do you make of that?
>
that you have a poor understanding of the nature of fascism.
>
>--
><> Robert Geer & Donna Tomky | * <>
><> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _o * o * o <>
><> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -\<, * <\ </L <>
><> Salt Lake City, Utah USA | O/ O __ /__, /> <>
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:02:39 -0400
From: Michael John Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are
theLinux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
wayfinder wrote:
> I'm noticing everyone talks about pretty icons but no addressed the "easy to
> use" option which was mentioned first in this fella's mail.
> I wonder why that is...
Wayfinder;
I would be delighted to address the easy to use issue of which you speak.
LINUX IS EASY TO USE. IT IS EASIER TO USE THAN WINBLOZE.
"What!", you say, "How can this be?!". Well friend let me explain it to you.
Linux is Unix for all practical purposes. Unix is easy to use if you know
unix. Now there are those of who know Unix and there are those of us who know
Winbloze. I once had a network of about 600 users. Most of them just had a
machine tossed on their desk one day and they were told, "just use it, you
don't need any training. Its Winbloze and its user friendly." Depending on
your perspective, Winbloze is user friendly and is easier to use than Linux/X
or it is NOT easier to use and much less user friendly than Linux/X. Here is
what I mean, my mom was a keypunch operator on an UNIVAC in 1954. After that
she worked her way up to the Chief of Data Processing operations at a U.S. Army
Command. She was a mainframer obviously. This lady knew more about computers
than I ever did but she never used Winbloze. Well 30 years passed she retired
and then rejoined non-govt service. One day the boss comes in with a hot new
Winbloze machine and says, we are removing your terminal (to the AS400) and
you are going to use this. It was very hard for her to deal with the miserable
WinBloze interface for the first time because there are
ALL SORTS OF INCONSISTENCIES in the logic of how things work and where they
are. For example to shutdown you have to select 'Start'. Just think on that
for a while. What kind of an absolute MORON would put 'Shutdown' under a
'Start' button?
My perception is that there are a whole bunch of Windows users switching over
to Linux these days and then 'pissing and moaning' because "Linux is TOO
hard". Linux is no harder than Windows it is just different. We have
different ways of doing things because we have TWENTY years MORE experience
DOING them. The Linux/Unix community has already solved the problems Microsoft
will be solving for the next ten years. When the Microsoft Whiners stop
talking and start thinking, maybe they will figure that out and just do what
everyone else does, learn the system.
IMHO - The attempts to make X look like W95/98 were 'cute'. For a while I
thought I might like the change. I find myself wishing it had never been done
because I don't want to see Linux/X confused with the garbage spewing out of
Redmond. Sure even Microsoft sometimes has a good idea that they did not
steal. When they do, we should steal it ourselves...
:-)
>
>
> Dave Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >On 22 Mar 1999, Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> >
> >| Which would you rather have: an OS which is easy to use, with pretty
> >| windows and icons, which crashes at least once a day, or an OS which
> >| doesn't have the above, but which never crashes?
> >
> >My windows under AfterStep are very pretty.:) You hear all the time how
> >linux looks bad and maybe it does out of the box. But linux gives you the
> >ability to make it look anyway you can think up. I think this results in a
> >much better interface then Windows.
> >
> >dave
> >
--
Michael Erskine, Simply Computers!, Urbanna, Virginia, 804-758-3793
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From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: LOCALHOST question...whoa baby!
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:40:11 -0400
I've noticed that my host name has been changing after an undetermined
amount of time, usually after having worked on top of the X server for
some time. Normally, my box is named LOCALHOST, i.e. [ROOT@LOCALHOST
/ROOT] or [USER@LOCALHOST /HOME]. After time, however, I've noticed
that the name will change to a alpha-numeric type, usually something
like "core10d46". It always starts with "core", then has a
2-digit/"d"/2-digit sequence following thereafter.
Does anyone know where this might be coming from? Is this a bug that
needs to be updated? Does this come from multiple su changes? Does it
have something to do with my core dump? It is a consistent problem that
I would like to solve. I've noticed that it causes other errors, such
as not allowing me to run certain commands, like,
/etc/cron.daily/updatedb.cron, almost as if the system recognizes this
as another user or machine that doesn't have the permissions or $PATH
necessary to perform these commands.
Any information will be greatly appreciated,
and will be rewarded in turn with the appropriate alcoholic remedy...
;)
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:40:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
P A Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> If you can get someone to make the WINNT4.0 three floppy disc set, you
> can start to install NT. You will get to a screen that asks want
> partition you want to install on and do you want to delete any
> partitions. At this point I delete the Linux as well as any other
> partitions, save this and quit. Or you might just try using NT to do a
> 16Bit FAT fdisk and format.
>
I tried that and it *still* boots Linux - to a point.
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From: michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Moving Linux...
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:13:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to know the answer of this kind of thing too.
But can you use laplink to transfer all files from one to another ?
just my thought...let me if you got any solution for this.
Thanks.
Michael Jones.
Gerald Willmann wrote:
> > Christophe Basset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I know how to create the new partitions (swap+native) with fdisk, but is
> > > there an easy way to move Linux to the new drive without having to
> > > re-install and re-configure everything?
>
> read the upgrade hard disk mini-howto - you don't need to reinstall
>
> Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Arromdee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: More newbie questions...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Apr 1999 02:06:46 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I do already know about the page
>> http://www.student.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~tek/projects/linux.html
>> which doesn't mention this sound card by name.
>well, what can we conclude from that? look into the commercial
>sound drivers if you insist on trying to use a card from a company
>that probably wasn't willing to let the developers have any info.
>without an NDA.
You obviously did not read my question carefully enough.
--
Ken Arromdee |They said it was *daft* to build a space
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |station in a swamp, but I showed them! It
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |sank into the swamp. So I built a second
http://www.inetnow.net/~arromdee|space station. That sank into the swamp too.
================================+My third space station sank into the swamp.
So I built a fourth one. That fell into a time warp and _then_ sank into the
swamp. But the fifth one... stayed up! --Monty Python/Babylon 5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:33:47 GMT
Michael,
My original point is that I did not appreciate someone else taking it
upon themself to change my email address and repost it. Had he simply
made a comment to the effect that "munging" violates Usenet standards
and gave a link to the page like you did, I wouldn't have had a
problem with it. I'm not sure I totally agree with the concept that
I'm helping to bring about the fall of Usenet and turning a blind eye
to those that would destroy it (i.e. spammers) by doing so. I
currently use Netscape to retrieve my email from my ISP and may have
to look into using Procmail to get better spam filtering than Netscape
provides. At any rate, my original point still stands. As far as I'm
concerned editing another users information and reposting it without
their consent is also violating standards. Of common courtesy if not
"official" Usenet.
mike
On 29 Apr 1999 12:21:38 -0700, Michael Powe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Bill> Hi Michael,
> >> Don't munge your address. You are violating Usenet standards.
> >> It's really ridiculous if you're using linux, since you can set
> >> up a 99% effective spam filter in about 15 minutes.
>
> Bill> How do you do this? (Set up a spam filter) Thanks for any
> Bill> help!!!
>
>Easiest way: go to http://www-new.hrweb.org/spambouncer.
>
>There are many spam filtering options out there but this is the one I
>use & it seemed to me to be about the easiest to set up. In the past
>month, 2 spams have gotten by it. It is completely transparent to the
>user. Set it up, then relax.
>
> >> http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful
>
> Bill> This link does say how to do it, just says "munging is
> Bill> harmful".
>
>Yeah, unfortunately the "usenet genius" to whom I responded originally
>couldn't be bothered to read it.
>
>mp
>
>- --
> powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
>Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
> "Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
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From: Toke Gaarde Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.c-programming,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:50:29 +0200
Thank you for you advice.
regards
Toke
"Jeremy L. Buchmann" wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Toke Gaarde Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I am using the built-in C++ compiler when programming under LINUX and I
> : would like to incorporate small pieces of assembler code into C++ code.
>
> : I have searched for a manual covering the reserved words in GNU's C++
> : compiler and their meaning but without succes. Do anyone know a link or
> : two?
>
> You can do it with asm().
>
> http://www.umr.edu/~sunws30/SUNWspro/c-compiler/user_guide/c_sparcIX.doc.html
>
> This page has a reference to it, and I compiled the following without any
> trouble on gcc version egcs-2.90.25 980302 (egcs-1.0.2 prerelease).
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main()
> {
> printf("\nTesting...\n");
> asm("");
> return 1;
> }
>
> It doesn't do anything, but I am on a Mac and don't know anything about
> Motorola assembly. Also, I don't know how/if registers are
> cleared/restored before and after using the asm statement.
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jeremy Buchmann "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Toke Gaarde Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.c-programming,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:52:09 +0200
Thank you for your nice example
regards
Toke
"Marshall G. Gates" wrote:
> Toke Gaarde Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am using the built-in C++ compiler when programming under LINUX and I
> > would like to incorporate small pieces of assembler code into C++ code.
> >
> > I have searched for a manual covering the reserved words in GNU's C++
> > compiler and their meaning but without succes. Do anyone know a link or
> > two?
>
> #include <iostream.h>
>
> void main()
> {
> cout << "LINUX is fun? ";
> .
> .
> asm("mov ah,09");
> asm("mov al,59");
> asm("mov bl,07");
> asm("int 10");
>
> One thing to note, the use of those BIOS interrupts is not advisable in
> Linux.
>
> Marshall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:04:16 GMT
In article <7gaj90$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any word on when Red Hat will release a 2.2.X kernel RPM? I downloaded the
> source files from kernel.org, but I'd rather have a painless, no-brainer
> upgrade.
There are thousands of different combination in your compilation, it is better
if you compile the kernel that suit your system configuration.
RPM package basically load almost everything in modules, and exclude some not
so common hardware. Eg: If you don't have SCSI, RPM include it in. Say if you
have IDE Floppy (LS-120), RPM package doesn't have it compiled.
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From: "Gideon le Grange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.dcom.modems.cable,comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:21:12 +0200
Idiot.
Don't use this newsgroup to draw attention to your own sutff
being sold by Ebay.
What a moron
Jack Levin wrote in message ...
>Hi all... Check out Calibri-133 firewall being sold at Ebay. (hardware)
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97714586
>
>-Jack
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:19:54 GMT
Don,
Somewhere below you said 'maybe I shouldn't have brought
this up in cubfm', well you shouldn't. This is as they say,
"FUD" material. Frustrate, undermind and demoralize.
By continuing this thread, on any channel, you are helping
the M$ cause.
When I saw the subject line, I was tempted to cry M$
cronie, but I saw your name attached. :-)
With no room for doubt, M$ rigded the test. This "test"
is more than a phoney benchmark comparison; it is also a
"test" and benchmarch of community respone.
Point being that if such a attach was taken against
a commerical company, they would in fact be frustrated.
Why? Just consider what actions are left to both the CTO
and the head of R&D. They can't respond in person, they are
too busy and if they did it would validate the M$ test.
In this case, M$ has accomplished neither and this
phoney test has led to internal furstrations. They may
have expected the Press to followup in a bigger manner
or perhaps expected a bigger rise from one of the
Linux commercial vendors.
In all cases, following on with this thread (topic)
is detremental. My suggestion, if you think this might
affect *BSD, is to what 'attack' M$ will use next, then
plan for something different.
Why? I garauntee you this message will be read at M$.
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:24:30 -0400, Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>It's at
>http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/mslinux990428.html.
>Here's an excerpt:
>
>"Normally, that would be the end of it. But the community of
>hackers and developers that built Linux was furious. While
>Microsoft engineers spent a great deal of time �tuning� the
>Windows NT test computer � making sure it would run the test
>software at its highest efficiency level � Mindcraft installed
>the Red Hat Linux Operating System practically out of the box,
>with no tuning whatsoever."
>
>On my machine, Linux is way faster than Windows 98. But then
>again, Windows NT is different than 98.
>
>Basically, I think disk access was what hurt Linux the most. On
>Linux systems, it seems that disk access is fast, but it makes
>the rest of the system run slow. This, I think, has been one of
>Linux's biggest weaknesses for as long as I can remember, from
>way back (1995). Disk access just doesn't seem to run as smooth
>under Linux as it does under other Free UNICES, like FreeBSD.
>This is more of a constructive criticism of Linux, and not a
>flame.
>
>But I do have a hard time believing that Windows NT can beat
>Linux hands down. Like the quote said, engineers spent an awful
>lot of time "tuning" Windows NT, and didn't do sh*t to the Linux
>systems. I think this shows that the Mindcraft people are more
>familiar with Windows NT than with Linux.
>
>Actually, I think speed isn't everything anyway. What about
>stability? How do the OSes in question respond to viruses and
>"bad apps"? Maybe the tests exploited the strengths in Windows
>NT while exploiting the weaknesses in Linux. Why did Mindcraft
>use RedHat instead of other Linux distributions, like Debian or
>Slackware?
>
>Well, maybe I shouldn't have brought this up in cubfm, but it is
>a free UNIX. I think Linux is going through an experimental
>stage at this point, and we can expect to find some weaknesses
>exposed in the OS.
>
>Even if NT *can* beat Linux hands down (and I don't think it
>can), I don't think it's going to stop people from running Linux
>or FreeBSD. Like a bumper sticker I saw: "I'd rather push my
>Ford than drive a Chevy!".
>
>--
> Donn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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