Linux-Misc Digest #992, Volume #25 Mon, 9 Oct 00 18:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Email rejected by aol.com - why? (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: KDE Interface v Microsoft Windows (Kevin E Cosgrove)
How to install Linux RH7? (Bo Berglund)
Re: Procomm-like comm package? (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Re: Odd Mouse Behaviour (Robert Heller)
Re: Redhat access network card before PCMCIA loads (Robert Heller)
Re: Large file system (Bruce Forsberg)
Passing variables to Expect from bash, How? (BadBoo)
How to get ide-scsi to auto-load? (Grant Edwards)
Best way to backup? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
redhat 6.2 xterm/bash backspace key does not work (Ned Kittlitz)
Re: what is the most convenient and effective way to backup? ("Jeffrey J. Potoff")
Not Too Well Aquainted With E-Mail Software Setup (Obviously) (N/A)
Print Quota (Rafael)
Making "forwarding" permanent ("Micer")
Sniffer ("Micer")
Re: Does anyone have masquerading working on redhat 7.0 ("Micer")
sendmail-problems (Christian Wenz)
Re: Linux contra Microsoft ("Larry Ebbitt ")
Re: Newbie network question ("Micer")
Re: Linux contra Microsoft ("Larry Ebbitt ")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:13:44 GMT
JC Vollmer wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
> Can someone tell me what would be the valid settings for vga= in
> /etc/lilo.conf. What are the different tux images/resolutions available?
>
> --
> JC VOLLMER TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
> CONSOLIDATED LINT IGNORE FULLWISE DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
you have to use framebuffer instead of svga... read in
/usr/src/linux/documentation/fb
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Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Email rejected by aol.com - why?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:29:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell) writes:
[...]
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. The following address(es) failed:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<ac@localhost>:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[...]
If that's really what your "MAIL FROM" header looks like, then
the yb.mx.aol.com host did the right thing. A From: header with
a non-rDNS-capable content should not be delivered at all, as this
usually a typical spammer technique.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Subject: Re: KDE Interface v Microsoft Windows
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:34:31 GMT
Yes, "preferences" are by definition, "subjective". But, UI
effectiveness is measureable -- just ask any "human factors"
professional or scholar. The question is what do you want to be
effective at? Here's a bogus comparison to illustrate my point.
If I want an editor program, and choose to compare Word and vi,
then I'll notice how difficult vi is to learn, especially without
using the documentation, compared to Word. Once I've learned how
to use both Word and vi and want to create or maintain a
document, then I'll notice how much clicking and dragging that
Word forces upon me. So, Word would score higher than vi in the
"descoverability" category, and vi would score higher than Word
in the "usability" category.
As someone's sig once said: "Windows, making easy things easy
and hard things impossible".
Cheers....
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner) writes:
> Since UI preferences tend to be fairly subjective in nature, I think
> I'd suggest installing both Windows and Linux+KDE on a machine of your
> own and using them both yourself.
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Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Subject: How to install Linux RH7?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:38:31 GMT
Stupid question, just throw in the CD and start...
Yes, but what I wanted to find out is how do I fit the system into my
PC? I had thought that a PC with less resources than used by Windows
would be OK, so I have started out with a Pentium 166 with 16M RAM (I
will add more later) and 1500 Mb hdd. I also have 3 pcs 3Com509B NICs.
My problem is how to set up the partitioning and package selections to
fit? I have gone back and forth for a while now switching off the
system now and then to get back to zero and I am still not done.
First try:
Select Gnome and not check the select packages box
Result: A long time later the insteller gets into a loop where it
complains that the disk space is too small (470 Mb needing 800+) and
it recommends getting more, but it just loops with no user entries so
I had no choice but switching power.
Second try:
Same as above but check select package box
Result: A list of cryptic letter combinations with byte sizes added. I
can switch on/off some and I tried by more or less random choices
(what are these programs/tools really? No explanations given). This
way I came down to about 400 Meg. Continue, but then a new loop
started where it said packages were interdependent and I had to add
the depending packages. This of course makes my disk too small
again...
Third try:
Deselect almost everything, but what is really needed for a working
installation? I thought that at least the C compiler should be there
so the kernel could be recompiled, but it looks like this (Development
tools) will add 100Mb+ or so.
Now I am getting desperate, is there no user friendly way to set up
Linux on the odd PC? Why must I add a lot of partitions without
knowing the sizes needed? Should not the partitioning wait until the
packages have been selected so that the system could calculate an
optimum size?
So what do I do now? I just wanted a Linux system up and running so I
could experiment with firewalling and web/email servers etc....
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
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Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Procomm-like comm package?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:37:41 GMT
Minicom includes /usr/bin/xminicom, which could be the GUI you're
after. If you don't like that, then you probably won't like
pcomm either. In the past, on Solaris/SunOS, I've found pcomm to
be very much like procomm.
G'luck....
In article <8rleev$s1d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
fred anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned that minicomm doesn't quite fit
> the bill either. Anything with a GUI out there? Unfortunately (for
> me), my users hate having to remember commands.
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opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Odd Mouse Behaviour
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:52:17 -0000
MDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:30:13 GMT, wrote :
M> System is a VTech Platinum NCP Pro Series
M> 2 x 200 MMX processors
M> 64 Mb RAM
M> MS 2 button serial mouse
M> 33.6 ext USR modem
M> RH6.2
M>
M> This is a fresh/clean install (not that old either) where once every
M> couple of days or so the mouse seems to take on a life of its' own. When
M> this happens the mouse pointer does not follow mouse movement (I move
M> mouse left pointed goes up/down/right - anywhere but where I move the
M> mouse), 'clicks' are performed without the mouse button being depressed,
M> and of course it becomes impossible to do anything but hit the reset
M> button.
M>
M> Everything else seems to be working fine, any suggestions would be
M> appreciated.
Check your mouse's cable and connectors. Check to see if your mouse
needs cleaning. Check to see if your mouse pad is 'gummed up'.
This sounds very much like a *hardware* problem. Cables work loose.
Mouse cables are readily abused, esp. where the cable enters the 'front'
of the mouse (yanked on, bashed against things, etc.). Mouse balls pick
up dust and dirt, which sticks to the sense rollers inside the mouse
ball chamber. Mouse pads get dust (and skin oil) ground into them. Any
and all of these things can cause all sorts of 'strange' mouse behavior.
M>
M>
M> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
M> Before you buy.
M>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat access network card before PCMCIA loads
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:52:17 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:29:24 GMT, wrote :
s> Redhat access network card before PCMCIA loads
s>
s> I have a network pcmcia card in my notepad. I would like to network
s> card to get active at boot time, but I see that redhat 7.0 is trying to
s> active the network card before PCMCIA loads so the active does not
s> work. Can someone please tell me a way around this??
Don't try to start the network at boot time:
ONBOOT=no
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
When the PCMCIA deamon is started, it will see the card (if it is in
the slot) and will run the proper if-up script for the card (assuming
everything in /etc/pcmcia is properly configured). The network will go
down when card is removed or when the PCMCIA deamon is shutdown
(durring normal shutdown).
Even if the ONBOOT config option is 'no', you will get the network up at
boot time, if the card is in place at boot time. ONBOOT=yes only makes
sense for hard-wired network interfaces -- ISA or PCI NICs, auto-started
PPP/SLIP, ISDN modems, X25 cards, etc.
s>
s>
s> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
s> Before you buy.
s>
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From: Bruce Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Large file system
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:49:08 GMT
In article <8r41hm$9lj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael Pike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While setting up RH6.2 on a Dell Poweredge for work, with over 80 gigs
of hd
> space, a problem arose while xferring a database file from it's NT
> counterpart...
>
> The file is 8 gigs in size, its a hospital database..... Linux,
because it
> is on Intel arcitecture, cannot accomodate files larger than 2 gigs in
size.
>
> I found patches for the kernel to enalble large file support, but i
failed
> miserably trying to apply the libs and the kernel patches....
>
> My question is this.. since 7.0 is out, and it uses Kernel 2.4 - is
the
> large file system stuff built into the kernel now?
>
> I am afraid if the LFS isnt implemented as a standard, Linux is going
to run
> into a lot of problems, because 2 gigs is NOT big enough in this day
and
> age, especially for enterprise servers...
One other thing to keep in mind. If you plan to share these large files
over a network via NFS, you will need to run NFS V3. Last time I checked
the client NFS V3 for Linux is not working very well while the server
is. It might have changed by now.
Bruce Forsberg
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From: BadBoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Passing variables to Expect from bash, How?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:57:25 GMT
I am trying to pass two variables from a short bash script to a shorter
expect script. I have even tried:
export VAR1 VAR2
and then written a simple expect script as:
#!/usr/bin/expect --
echo $VAR1 $VAR2
which didn't work.
But a similar bash script works fine:
#!/bin/bash
echo $VAR1 $VAR2
Preferably, due to the escript only being 4 lines long (the expect
script) I would prefer to run it inside the bash script, which uses awk
for a two line for ;do loop.
If anyone has a clue how to accieve this goal, please email monkey book
page numbs, man page keywords, hate mail, whatver. Thanx
Bruce Meyer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: How to get ide-scsi to auto-load?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:16:21 GMT
I can't figure out how to get the ide-scsi module auto-loaded
when I try to mount /dev/scd0 [and also the aic7xxx module
auto-loaded when I try to mount /dev/scd1].
I've gotten everything to autoload correctly when the "sg"
module loads by doing the following in /etc/conf.modules:
add below sg ide-scsi aic7xxx
add below aic7xxx ide-scsi # need to keep order consistent
And aic7xxx auto-loads when I mount /dev/sd* due to the line
below:
alias block-major-8 aic7xxx
But I can't figure out how to get the low-level scsi drivers
loaded on accesses to /dev/scd[01].
The usual advice seems to be to do something like:
add below sr_mod ide-scsi
But my kernel (standard RH 6.2 kernel 2.2.14-6.1.1) appears to
have "sr" compiled in since it never has to load sr_mod to
access cd-rom drives.
I tried aliasing block-major-11 to both aic7xxx and ide-scsi
with no effect.
Any suggestions?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Nice decor!
at
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Best way to backup?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:10:22 GMT
Until I install a tape drive or backup unit, I'm looking for a way to
backup the entire linux root partition on a regular basis to a local
disk or maybe to a network share. Does anyone know of a good *safe* way
to do this? I'm thinking I can tar it up, but don't know the best
parameters. Could i use cpio?
Thanks in advance,
Phil
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From: Ned Kittlitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: redhat 6.2 xterm/bash backspace key does not work
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:26:48 -0400
I recently installed redhat 6.2 on a dell system, doing a "everything"
installation.
We have a number of PCs running windows NT and Exceed X windows. If I
create an xterm on the linux system using the PC X server, the backspace
key does not work. control-h works for me.
I looked into readline. /etc/inputrc has
"\e[3~": delete-char
On the xterm, I've done
stty raw
od -xc
typed in characters abcd and then the backspace key. It shows
a b c d 033 [ 3 ~ etc....
I can't figure out why this sequence would not work. Others, such as
escape-d work. I even tried some that I've never used before, such as
the "page up" key, which generates 033 [ 5 ~, which appears to be a
"beginning-of-history" function.
I have not yet gotten X windows working on the console because it's an
I810 and I need a newer kernel. So it could be something that Exceed is
doing, but I don't see what. The od output seems pretty conclusive to
me.
Any ideas?
Ned
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From: "Jeffrey J. Potoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: what is the most convenient and effective way to backup?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:30:01 GMT
jeff wrote:
>
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 04:39:59 GMT, Jeffrey J. Potoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Lucas Tsoi wrote:
> > >
> > > As title.
> > > Thanks very much.
> >
> > I like 4mm or 8mm tape. I wrote a few simple shell scripts that run tar
> > or dump automatically. For a complex system, you might want to check
> > out AMANDA.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Harddisks are getting so cheap that I install a spare (using a removable
> tray, but that's optional) and just use dd to clone my entire system. 20GB
> takes about three hours (on PIII 550), so I do it overnight.
>
> yaj (yet another jeff)
Heh. I must be old school. I'll always believe in tapes, since I like
to have multiple backups with one set stored off-site. If some goofball
hacks my system, my backups are still secure, since the tape isn't
stored in the machine. YMMV.
Jeff
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Not Too Well Aquainted With E-Mail Software Setup (Obviously)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:30:09 -0000
i have a bulk mailer program for linux and im lost on one tiny aspect of
its configuration:
-it says i need my 'SMTP E-Mail Server Details (For Sending Messages)'
then it goes: 'SMTP Mail Server:_____________'
i am trying to send messages through my Yahoo Account so in that field i
have 'www.yahoo.com' as my SMTP Mail Server is this what i should be
putting in that space? If not what should i put putting?
*thank you.
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Print Quota
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:34:27 +0200
I need Print Quotas Under Linux for our Institution. Only this that we
do not have ability to count printed pages under Linux keep us using
Microsoft Windows NT. Can anybody help me to find some software or
script to count printed pages by users.
Users use windows 98 and Windows Workstation, they are connected thruu
Samba to our RedHat Linux Server:
We have two Network Printers: HP LaserJet 5 and Oki printer.
Can anybody help me?
If you can please send me email.
Rafael
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making "forwarding" permanent
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:42:00 -0700
I finally got ipchains to work with FORWARD and MASQ by reading in the HOWTO
that recent Linux Kernels have forwarding turned off by default. The way to
make it work is to do this:
"echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
It works great, except for one problem: I have to do it every time I boot my
RedHat 6.0 Linux. How can I make the forwarding option permanent without
having to put the above command into my ipchains script?
Micer
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sniffer
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:45:41 -0700
Can anyone suggest a good packet sniffer for RedHat Linux. Also, I have a
3COM 3C509 card. Do I need a different card to do sniffing?
I am testing NAT, Squid proxy, MASQ, IPMASQADM, etc, etc and want to see the
packets floating about rather than seeing how they were handled in the log
after the fact.
Micer.
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone have masquerading working on redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:48:05 -0700
Just got it working last night on Redhat 6.0, but don't see why it shouldn't
also work on 7.0. I am using ipchains with the FORWARD and MASQ options. I
use it to enable clients to access the internet via a Linux box.
Micer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8rt6l5$g1j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone have masquerading working on redhat 7.0
>
> If so please email me I am thinking about setting it up
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Christian Wenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: sendmail-problems
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:59:12 +0200
i get this message from the sendmail daemon:
daemon could not open control socket /var/run/sendmail.control: group
writable directory
what is the problem ?? do i have to change the sendmail.conf-file ??
--
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From: "Larry Ebbitt " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:58:35 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: "Larry Ebbitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux contra Microsoft
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:21:04 +0200, Rafael wrote:
>Here in Sweden is more expesive to built your own system than buy ready one.
>But still I always prefer to bulid my own.
In the U.S., little money can be saved by building one's own. However,
better
components will be used and there is great comfort in knowing exactly
what is
what and how it is configured. In short, I agree with you.
Larry - Atlanta - Linux + OS/2
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie network question
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:10:30 -0700
If Pichu is a Linux box then you can place your ISP's nameserver addresses
into "/etc/resolv.conf" so that clients getting onto the net will have name
resolution and so that your Linux box will have name resolution, (The squid
proxy server reads and caches the nameserver addresses at startup and does
not need resolv.conf thereafter). Then you should set up a ppp dialing
script (or scripts) in your Linux startup so that every time you boot you
get a connection to the internet. There are some good scripts that come with
RedHat - just do a "locate ppp" to find them. They will be "ppp-on",
"ppp-off", etc, etc. They have to be modified very slightly to have your
username and password for connecting to your ISP, as well as a few
characters from your ISP's PPP-prompt string. Then you could permit any
clients to have access to the internet via the Linux box by either using a
proxy or NAT.
To use a proxy download the latest STABLE version of the squid proxy server
from www.squid-cache.org. Also print the FAQ and manual. It takes a while to
get familiar with it. Build it, then modify the squid.conf file to contain
your own desired settings. Modify permissions to various Linux directories
as suggested in the squid manual (for security). Place a command in your
Linux startup script to start squid once the PPP connection has had time to
complete. For example:
"( sleep 30 ; /usr/local/squid/bin/squid ) &"
The above command should follow the PPP connection in the script so that
squid starts when a valid PPP connection to the ISP exists. If you use port
8080 for squid then you will want to configure Internet Explorer (or
Netscape, or whatever) at each client PC to use a "proxy server" on the LAN.
Specify the network address of the Linux box as the proxy, on port 8080.
This works fine for me and for a company I work for. If you want to have
authentication for your clients, (ie: have certain clients be able to access
everything and others only be able to access a limited number of pages) then
you need to also use PROXY_AUTH in conjunction with SMB_AUTH (uses SAMBA
client utilities). Download this at
www.hacom.nl/~richard/software/smb_auth.html. This will permit you to have
various NT clients authenticate themselves to squid before being allowed out
onto the net. Works great. Finally, if you want reports on who is using
which web pages and for how long (say once a week or so) then use sqmgrlog
from http://web.onda.com.br/orso/. Also works great. You need to set up a
sqmgrlog.conf file to control the options in it.
However, there is another way, using NAT (Network Address Translation), and
it is easier than figuring out squid. Just use the ipchains command that is
built into RedHat Linux. Using the FORWARD and MASQ options you can have the
Linux box accept all incoming requests from your clients to the internet,
replace the source address in each packet with the ISP-assigned Linux-box
internet address, and then forward the packets to the internet. Works great
for me. Very little setup required. Caution: in recent versions of the Linux
Kerneal forwarding is turned off by default, so in your script that starts
ipchains you should also place the command:
"echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
I don't know how to make the setting permanent, so putting this in your
script causes it to happen every time you start the firewall, which is
probably every time you boot.
To have a DNS server there would be no problem using the Linux box, but be
prepared, all of the above takes time to figure out and get working.
Good luck, you'll need it.
Micer
"jean christophe godefroy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I am new to network management and i would like to set the following
> network :
> Pichu : main server
> several clients esteban, zia, chaton running w95, w 2k and linux
>
> Pichu uses ppp to connect to the internet, and i would like to
> share the connection with the others clients
> I would also like to set Pichu as the DNS for my
> local network.
>
> Could you indicate me the corresponding howto's or
> "gpl" software i should use in order to set my network ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Jean Christophe Godefroy
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From: "Larry Ebbitt " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:05:25 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: "Larry Ebbitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux contra Microsoft
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:33:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>BTW, there is a lot of windows software that have to be compiled before
>you use it.
Could you expand on that? I'm not personally aware of any and I know
no one
who has a compiler for C. I have IBM's Visual Age for C++ on an NT
system at
work, but that is not too general-purpose.
Larry - Atlanta - Linux + OS/2
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