Linux-Misc Digest #356, Volume #20 Wed, 26 May 99 12:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box (Mark Stolz)
call back (The Dude)
Re: Problem booting from hard disk (Pat Heuvel)
Re: smtp without registered domain? (Duncan Simpson)
Memory Allocation Issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients (Rich Piotrowski)
Re: Bart or Lisa could keep the family running Linux (Peter T. Breuer)
System Admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Wireless keyboard works!!! (Peter T. Breuer)
Linux books ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Nicer [FIX] Re: Hi, am having trouble with cpio-2.4.2 on S.u.S.E. 6.0 (Leif
Erlingsson)
Re: Bash Question (Tilman Kranz)
Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery (Tilman Kranz)
GWWEB.EXE on APACHE - Error and rpoblem (Sergey Koltogyan)
Re: Iomega products and Linux (James Lee)
Re: preventing floppy from mounting as MSDOS (instead of VFAT)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NT the best web platform? (Chris Sherlock)
Re: What is /dev/dsp ? (-ljl-)
prg starten mit pid ?? (dl6dbh)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Bruno Wolff III)
email bridge (Jack Cheng)
Re: G200? (Edward Vigmond)
Re: statically linked ls binary ("Ted George")
[HELP] Access Linux from NT - same hard drive (Scott R. Ehrlich)
H E L P PLS. Problems with keyboard... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Word Perfect (Johan Kullstam)
Re: RH6, Gnome & RealPlayer not quite right (Josh)
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From: Mark Stolz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:18:55 +0000
Gerritt Baer wrote:
>
> Well, I've found myself with an extra PII/266, and can't find a real
> use for the darn thing. I could install w95 on it to chain my pcs
> together so I can play quake2 with myself, but I was hoping to do
> something more useful/interesting with it. So i've installed SuSE 6.1
> on it yesterday and I'm trying to think of some interesting/fun things
> to do with the box. As, of now, it just sits there doing not much of
> anything :) Anyone have any good ideas?
>
> Gerritt Baer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Set it up and donate it to your local school or give (loan) it to
some aspiring young hacker on the condition that they actually hack.
Just my $0.02...
--Mark
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From: The Dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: call back
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:53:50 GMT
Hi guys, I'm using RedHat 5.2 + KDE 1.1.
The dialup is working and I'm able to connect to the world.
I have the option of call back service but I don't realy know
how to make it work from my Linux OS (it works from NT).
Well, how do I do it?
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From: Pat Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem booting from hard disk
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:41:16 +1000
Gday krishan,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> ----
> Not found any [active partition] in HDD
> DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK ...
> ----
>
You need to run linux fdisk from a shell.
Use the 'p' command to list the partitions on the default drive.
One of those partitions should have an '*' to the right of it, in the
column labeled 'Boot'; if there is no '*', you have no bootable
partition!
To set a partition bootable, use the 'a' command (toggle partition
bootable).
That should do it!
Regards,
Pat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: smtp without registered domain?
Date: 26 May 1999 13:15:15 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen) writes:
>Would it be possible to run an smtp server without having a registered
>domain name? I mean suppose you can set up a 7/24 connected machine
>that has a routable ip. Can I then run an smtp server on such a machine?
>I have been pondering about it, but wonder how such a server could
>possibly work, if you haven't done shell out your $100 US for a .com domain
>name. Would someone please clarify this for me. thanks in advance
Yes, it will work and I suspect quite a large number of these machines
exist behind firewalls. How other SMTP mailers will find your machine is
a little more difficult if an MX record points the mail elsewhere.
Given this beast has fixed IP and name you can probably presuade at
least some ISPs you to delegate a subdomain to you (or at least give
you an MX and A record). I am sure some of these people would not insist
on selling you a connection as well.
Oh, and finally if do this make sure your machine is in an open relay
for anyone in the world. Such machines are used by spammers to work
around problems, like their machines have been widely backholed and
otherwise blocked so they can not send mail directly. (Cyberpromo
had this problem, if you were around when Spamford was a wanted
spammer).
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Memory Allocation Issue
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:58:07 GMT
My kernel (RedHat 6.0 2.2.5) died on me twice, I was unable to get into
the machine at all.
The problem seems to be that although the kernel reserves process slots
for privileged processes, it does not reserve any memory pages.
If a user level process or processes gobble up all available memory,
everything stops, you can't login in, even as root, syslogd etc. die
through lack of memory and you are forced to reboot.
Why doesn't the kernel reserve memory for privileged processes?
I made a simple change to mm/mmap.c to reserve the last 10% of pages in
this way, and this seems to solve the problem, system processes keep
running and I can login as root to kill the offending user processes.
Paul.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Piotrowski)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:15:36 GMT
On Wed, 26 May 1999 14:56:22 +0900, "G. Hugh SONG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Jon Paterson wrote:
>>
>> I am having a frustrating problem with a Redhat 6 server that was
>> previously a redhat 5.2 server rebuilt.
>>
>> I have a Linux client (redhat 6.0 also) that is trying to connect to the
>> server and is always getting the "permission denied" message.
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with the exports file, I have even deleted it and
>> done the configuration through Linuxconf, and the same error exists.
>>
>> I think that it may have something to do with Knfsd, but am not sure
>> where to look.
>>
>> can anyone help or point me in the right direction?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Jon Paterson
>
>I am having the same problem on both systems of Intel/Linux and
>Alpha/Linux. The error message reads as
>
>fh_verify: ///permission failure, acc=3 error=13
>
>and something similar but related to nfs-something.
>
>I guess that it is not related to RedHat6.0. In my case,
>it appears that it is related to the recent kernels, 2.2.8 and
>2.2.9. It appears that it does no harm on the system. But,
>certainly, it makes me quite nervous.
>
>Unfortunately, I don't know more than that.
>
>Regards,
>
>--
>G. Hugh Song
Simple!
Redhat 6.0 NFS now defaults to Read-only. Check your setup in
linuxconf again! Or check man exports. My exports file now loks like
this.
/ machine.name(rw)
Note the addition of the "(rw)" switch to allow read-write.
Rich Piotrowski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Bart or Lisa could keep the family running Linux
Date: 26 May 1999 12:41:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jonas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier) writes:
: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) =E9crivait/wrote:
: >
: > >> Indeed! And I'm glad to take your word for it: now I can say I know
: > >> one of those rare birds. Still 99,999 to find. That's a lot.
: > >
: > >You can find me on that list as well.
: >
: > 99,998.
: Make that 99,997. I haven't used an MS OS for over a year now
99,996.
I tried installing vmware the other day to see what windows looks
like, but the windows install diskette couldn't read from my 32x cdrom,
so ...
: copies they have sold and also how many downloads they have had from
: their servers. This would still only give you a small piece of the
Uh. Well, we can count linux servers pretty accurately via nslookup
or other tricks.
: --
: Giles Paterson
: 4th Year MEng Software Engineering Student,
: "... Nowadays it is hard to die young, no matter how stupid, slow or
: myopic you are." Dr Richard Dawkins
=====================================================================
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: System Admin
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:58:02 GMT
Hi there,
Can anybody tell me some links to try for LINUX system administration.
Cheers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Wireless keyboard works!!!
Date: 26 May 1999 12:42:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Claude Chaudet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >-->programmable "hot keys" that work in Windows due to the software drivers
: >-->(as yet unavailable in Linux, as far as I know).
: I think (thought) that from the OS's point of view, the fact that a
: keyboard has a wire or not has no importance since it should send
: the same signals.
: Am I wrong ?
No - ypu're right. The original post was either a commercial troll
or from an idyit.
: Claude.
--
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux books
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:00:01 GMT
Hi there,
Does anybody know what the best books on the market are for Linux System
Administrators.
Cheers
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From: Leif Erlingsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Leif Erlingsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nicer [FIX] Re: Hi, am having trouble with cpio-2.4.2 on S.u.S.E. 6.0
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:33:36 +0200
Nicer (but functionally equivalent) patch to cpio-2.4.2:
The problem I reported earlier wasn't with gcc or libc, as has
been pointed out to me, but with an incorrect assumption in
copyout.c of cpio-2.4.2. The below patch, with it's two added
type-casts, takes care of that mistaken assumption (that all
system types are integers):
Forget my earlier patch... this one is far more beautiful:
________________________________________________________________
*** cpio-2.4.2/copyout.c.orig Wed Jan 10 17:10:45 1996
--- cpio-2.4.2/copyout.c Wed May 26 14:40:57 1999
***************
*** 113,122 ****
sprintf (ascii_header,
"%06o%06o%06lo%06lo%06lo%06lo%06lo%06o%011lo%06lo%011lo",
! file_hdr->c_magic & 0xFFFF, dev & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_ino & 0xFFFF, file_hdr->c_mode & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_uid & 0xFFFF, file_hdr->c_gid & 0xFFFF,
! file_hdr->c_nlink & 0xFFFF, rdev & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_mtime, file_hdr->c_namesize & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_filesize);
tape_buffered_write (ascii_header, out_des, 76L);
--- 113,122 ----
sprintf (ascii_header,
"%06o%06o%06lo%06lo%06lo%06lo%06lo%06o%011lo%06lo%011lo",
! file_hdr->c_magic & 0xFFFF, (unsigned int) (dev & 0xFFFF),
file_hdr->c_ino & 0xFFFF, file_hdr->c_mode & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_uid & 0xFFFF, file_hdr->c_gid & 0xFFFF,
! file_hdr->c_nlink & 0xFFFF, (unsigned int) (rdev & 0xFFFF),
file_hdr->c_mtime, file_hdr->c_namesize & 0xFFFF,
file_hdr->c_filesize);
tape_buffered_write (ascii_header, out_des, 76L);
________________________________________________________________
Regards,
________________________________________________________________
Leif Erlingsson, Katrinebergsvagen 70, 146 50 Tullinge, Sweden
TEL +46 8 778-5038, MOB +46 709 14-0631, URL http://www.lege.com
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From: Tilman Kranz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash Question
Date: 26 May 1999 13:34:28 GMT
JACK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>What is going on here? Why should doing "bash -version"
>>>>fork a new shell for me?
> btw...again this may be nonsense but in general linux commands follow
> the rule
> of "command -<single letter switch>" and "command --"discriptive word
> switch"
> eg ls -C and ls --colour
not necessarily ;) It's GNU commands that in general behave like this.
That is, on another UNIX System the "--" switches might not work, or
might not work as desired.
Greetings, Tilman.
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From: Tilman Kranz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery
Date: 26 May 1999 14:00:05 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Alan Fried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I upgraded my kernel from 2.0.34 to 2.2.7 and I am using the Red Hat 5.1
> distribution. Fortunately I still have my old kernel so I am able to use
> the ppp option with the old kernel.
> Any suggestions?
Hmmm...
did you install the modules?
cd /usr/src/linux && make modules; make modules_install
(just in case)
Ok. If yes and if you furthermore really got the latest
ppp (in any case to be found at ftp.sunsite.unc.edu or one
of its mirrors), there imho is only one answer:
something is going -very- wrong.
> Thanx in advance
> Alan
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From: Sergey Koltogyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GWWEB.EXE on APACHE - Error and rpoblem
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:16:01 +0300
Hello.
I`m install webacces (GW5.5) on Apache on Linux....
After select ,in IE, languach and press "GO" i have error.
In the appache log i see:
[error] (8)Exec format error: exec of
/usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/GW5/GWWEB.EXE failed
[error] [client 192.168.0.8] Premature end of script headers:
/usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/GW5/GWWEB.EXE
What can i do ?
Serg
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Iomega products and Linux
Date: 26 May 1999 10:13:04 -0500
Bill Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have another Linux-hostile hardware company to mention: Sony.
: I bought a Sony pcg-812 laptop some time ago. If you register the computer
: with Sony you get a 1-yr warranty. The snag is that the only way to
: register is via some windows program. Since I erased all the windows junk
: on the HD, I couldn't get the 1-yr warranty.
surely there is a way to register by snail mail?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.setup,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: preventing floppy from mounting as MSDOS (instead of VFAT)
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:08:21 GMT
How do I set things up that automounting floppies does not result in
them being mounted as MSDOS (yuck!) but as normal MS-Windows format
(VFAT) (or ext2, should I ever decide to use that for floppies)? I'm
talking in particular about the KDE automounter.
BTW, what formats do other people use for floppies under Linux? And
what
format is good for transporting files to SunOS/Solaris machines?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Sherlock)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 26 May 1999 14:25:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 May 1999 19:35:00 -0400, Do-Hoon Kwon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:\begin{sarcasm}
:In a country where making/saving money is of the utmost importance,
:why isn't there a fair comparison like this?
:\end{sarcasm}
Just out of interest, what language is this notation from?
Chris S.
:
:1. Several groups of experts are gathered, one group per platform.
:2. Web performance test methods are devised and agreed on.
:3. Network environment in which the test will be performed is agreed on.
:4. Each party is given the same budget and timeframe. Somthing like
: 10(or even 100?) grand and one month.
:5. Each group starts from absolute nothing other than electricity.
:5. When the time is up, perform the test.
:
:\begin{sarcasm}
:Errrr.... Is it still money issue?
:\end{sarcasm)
:
:Do-Hoon Kwon
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is /dev/dsp ?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:41:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If someone knows, please tell me ... thanks
Think dsp stands for "Digital Signal Processor", sound stuff.
Take a look in "/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt".
Also, look in Documentations/sound.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dl6dbh)
Subject: prg starten mit pid ??
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:42:44 +0200
kann man ein prg starten und dabei den pid vorgeben
auf dem es laufen soll ??
meinolf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno Wolff III)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 26 May 1999 14:51:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From article <7ih08h$lle$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris
>Sherlock):
> On Tue, 18 May 1999 19:35:00 -0400, Do-Hoon Kwon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :\begin{sarcasm}
> :In a country where making/saving money is of the utmost importance,
> :why isn't there a fair comparison like this?
> :\end{sarcasm}
>
> Just out of interest, what language is this notation from?
TeX and LaTeX use that syntax.
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From: Jack Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: email bridge
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:24:12 GMT
Hello,
I have a domain name hosted in my ISP but use the dial-up account.
I use the Rh5.2 Linux box and 10 Win95 box with different email
address, I want to use the Linux server to collect all the emails send
to this domain every 1 hour.
Is it possible to use single dial-up account to send/receive emails for
more then one email address?
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dial-up account)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Jack Cheng
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G200?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:31:01 GMT
Chris Knapp wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm using RH5.2. Is support for the G200 included out of the box? I can't
> seem to get X to work properly.
No it doesn't work out of the box.
Get the patches for 5.2 from the Red Hat site and then use XF86Setup. It
worked for me on 5 machines here.
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From: "Ted George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: statically linked ls binary
Date: 26 May 1999 14:18:10 GMT
thanks for the offer. i have the srpm, and also downloaded the
latest ver of the fileutils. tried modifying LDFLAGS = -Bstatic
in the src dir Makefile, and a few other blind mods but have not
had any success. it just builds normally and ignores the static
flag. although i have noticed that the resulting binary is much
larger, but still dynamically linked and works the same.
would greatly appreciate any other pointers on how to modify
to build the static binaries. thanks
ted
Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I could send you one. I just statically compiled ls, cp, rm, ln ... good
> things to have. Otherwise you can get the fileutils SRPM and change the
> flag to compile statically.
>
> Seth
>
>
> Ted George wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> >
> > does anyone know where to find a statically linked ls binary for a
> > redhat-5.2 system. we are setting up chroot ftp and trying not to have
to
> > copy the libc.so.6 to each chrooted home dir for the dynamically linked
ls
> > to work properly.
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > ted
>
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Subject: [HELP] Access Linux from NT - same hard drive
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:32:00 GMT
I have a laptop with one partition Linux, one partition NT 4.0, and one
partition DOS 7, and LILO in the MBR.
Are there any command-line or GUI tools to access a Linux partition from
NT 4.0, SP3 + various hotfixes?
I checked the SAMBA site, but it wasn't clear if access to Linux from the
same machine another OS was running on was possible via SAMBA.
Any help would be appreciated. I'm currently running RH 5.2.
Thanks much!
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Scott Ehrlich Consulting http://www.shore.net/~sehrlich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H E L P PLS. Problems with keyboard...
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:35:39 GMT
Hello ALL !
Does anybody knew how to lock the keybord in LINUX ...
Is there a hot-key to lock / unlock keybord ?
Thank you ....
Eugene...
if it`s possible pls. send the answer to e-mail....
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word Perfect
Date: 26 May 1999 09:57:27 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mj) writes:
> Hi,
> In addition:
> Note that "f" must be the last char of the switches. if you do
> tar -xfv <filename> , it may not work (on my box at least, it
> doesn't).
don't use a minus and it'll work just fine!
tar xfv <filename.tar>
you can even do perverse stunts like
tar cvfb /dev/st0 2000 .
where the f goes with file /dev/st0 and b goes with the 2000 blocks.
see the tar info pages on old option syntax.
hope this helps.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6, Gnome & RealPlayer not quite right
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:08:34 -0400
Where did you get the Real Player G2 alpha???
I'd love to try it out (and hopefully be able to use it as a stable product
too:-) but I couldn't find it on their site.
Do you have a url for us?
Thanks,
Josh I.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steven Versteeg wrote:
> Michael J. Saletnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : So I put RH6 on a clean partition, having decided to blow away my 5.1
> : instead of upgrading. After the install, I have a very nice system;
> : however, I have a few issues that I need a little help with:
>
> : *) RealPlayer 5, Linux ELF version (which I use because the
> : rpm version for RH doesn't include NS plugin support), does not work,
> : failing on write() to /dev/dsp. All my other sound programs (sox,
> : xemacs, etc) work fine. Thoughts?
>
> RH 6.0 broke my RealPlayer 5 too. Real Networks have just released
> G2 alpha, and that works fine. Something else you may want to
> check is the permissions on your device files. The RH 6.0 upgrade
> changed the permissions on my device files so only root had access to them.
>
> : *) When I enable sounds in Gnome and/or Enlightenment, they seem to
> : lock the sound driver so that no other program can play sounds?
>
> : *) Gnome does not seem completely there ... I don't have an actual
> : "desktop," though I do have the panel. I also don't seem to have
> : the thing they call the "file manager." Any suggestions (other
> : than to verify all my gnome rpm's, which I'll try right now) ?
>
> Sorry, I don't use Gnome.
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