Linux-Misc Digest #356, Volume #21               Tue, 10 Aug 99 19:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Philip Brown)
  smbmount problem: Too many open files in system (Olivier Perron)
  Re: bash question: changing path within script? (Joseph_A_Philbrook__III)
  Re: Beginner problem, please help ("CAW Local 100 - Rail Division")
  Re: no-hlt and CPU temperature (benjamin j snyder)
  Re: Graphics Library for C/C++ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Can't log in (Igor Raznatovic)
  Re: TCL/TK AOL-IM ??? (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
  PCMCIA cards in Linux, How? (Charles Stroom)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY  PPP NOT WORK !! (Monte Phillips)
  dvips and RH6.0 (Ramin Sina)
  Re: Kernel RECOMPILE (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Ulrich Weigand)
  Source for Gnome Screen Savers? (Ben Iglauer)
  Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Greg Yantz)
  tar hoses system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LS-120 (Huub van Niekerk)
  Login thru AIX authentication ("Brian D. Jones")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 Aug 1999 20:43:56 GMT

On 10 Aug 1999 16:50:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Danny  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>>The main difference however, is that Linux can be installed on Intel-based
>>architectures, whereas Unix systems usually require dedicated (and 
>>expensive) hardware architectures.
>>
>>Danny Kalev
>
>That is a very strange view of UNIX. 
>
>UNIX was ported to Intel-based architectures well before Linux
>appeared, and today there are several variations of UNIX
>(including Linux) which run on the PC.

and besides "several variants".. THE TWO versions that can most directly claim
to BE UNIX -- UnixWare and Solaris -- run on intel



-- 
[Trim the no-bots from my address to reply to me by email!]
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 --------------------------------------------------
The word of the day is mispergitude


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From: Olivier Perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: smbmount problem: Too many open files in system
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:30:35 +0000

I have Mandrake 6.0 (with samba-2.0.5a-1mdk and kernel-2.2.9-27mdk)
installed.

Whenever I make: "smbmount //windoze_box/c$ /toto" and then "ls /toto" I
have the following error:

        ls: /toto: Too many open files in system


- in /var/log/messages there is:

        kernel: smb_lookup: find //BOOTLOG.TXT failed, error=-23

(and a lot more like this one) 


- in /var/log/samba/ there is:

[1999/08/09 22:21:46, 1] smbd/server.c:main(628)
  smbd version 2.0.5a started.
  Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998
[1999/08/09 22:21:46, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216)
  file_init: Information only: requested 10000 open files, 1014 are
available.



With Mandrake 5.3 (or RedHat 5.2) and samba-1.9.18p10-5 it used to work
correctly.

Did someone experience the same problem ?

Thanks in advance,
Olivier.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph_A_Philbrook__III)
Subject: Re: bash question: changing path within script?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 17:05:18 GMT


On Mon, 02 Aug 1999 "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did say:

 <<in Article 382611 of comp.os.linux.misc:>>


 > I'd like to be able to change the path from within a bash script. The
 > script, called set_path (with execute permission set, of course)
 > consists of a single line:
 > 
 > PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path

 <<< s n i p >>>

 > Can anyone tell me how to change the path from within a script?

And in his reply < Article 382912 of comp.os.linux.misc:>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Johnson) did nicely explain why it didn't work.
and even made a valid sugestion of useing the command form of:

. set_path

should solve the problem... 

This solution was obviously popular because It was repeated in additional
replys. There is perhaps an alternitive however, Before I learned of
the above method, my solution was to add a 2nd line to the script consisting
of the sh command which will invoke a subshell which inherets the enviroment
of the script... (I don't think I had to export $PATH for it to work since
$PATH was already exported in the .profile script when I logged in) this
does use more system resorces than the . set_path method, But had the bonus
that when I was done with the temporary reason for setting the path, all I
had to do was to exit the subshell and I'd be returned to the parent shell
which still had the origianal $PATH setting... And if I was using a shell
that didn't support the . scriptname method (I'm sure there must still be
some that don't somewheres...) this method would still work.

I assume the reason for set_path is temporary in nature or it would be
easier to simply set your prefered path in .profile .bashrc or whatever
your shell initializes your session with when you login...

(of coure one could allways have the origanal path defined in another script
called restore_path so that you could

. set_path

<do the task that needed set_path>

. restore_path

<resume normal opperations...>)

I'd also like to mention that the same methods work with the cd command
in scripts for the same reasons. It was because I liked to use .bat files
in dos to cd to appropiate directories that caused me to discover that sh
would work in a unix shell, and thus in a linux one...

<< theres nothing like an idiot who thinks he knows everything, of >>
<< course, if I actualy knew everything, I'd know I was an idiot.  >>

        ---   ___
        <O>   <->    Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
            ^
          \___/      < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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From: "CAW Local 100 - Rail Division" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Beginner problem, please help
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:09:50 GMT

Gee, I wish I had read this a few days ago. I had a problem where I changed
a line in the fontpath and when I re-booted my screen was flicking and
wouldn't start my KDE desktop.  If I had known that I could type in linux 3
at the LILO prompt it would have saved me from doing a complete re-install.
(that's the only thing I could think of at 3am to get me up and running
again).  Boy, do I have a lot to learn!!!  Thanks for the tip, Barbara

> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> You want runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5.
> This is controlled by a line in /etc/inittab.  If you want
> to change it permanently (or an extended period of time),
> change the `5' to a `3' in the appropriate line.   But
> if you don't have X running, you will probably have to
> boot single user to do that by entering
> linux single
> at the LILO prompt.
> If you just want to do boot in run level 3 once, use
> linux 3
> at the LILO prompt.
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (benjamin j snyder)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: no-hlt and CPU temperature
Date: 10 Aug 1999 17:58:39 GMT

I'm not familiar with 'no-hlt'  What exactly does it do?  Is it a kernel
feature, or is it something with slackware?


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bo B  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an AMD K6-2 450MHZ on a Soyo super7 MB,
>and a PS2 mouse, which makes a lot of noise when I move it.
>I run Slackware 4.0 with a 2.2.x kernel.
>I tried the "no-hlt" option in lilo, and now it stopped making noise.
>
>I just wonder if this is a safe (sane?!) option for the CPU.
>Doesn't it run too hot? Is it dangerous for the MB, unstable for the
>system?
>
>Bo
>
>


-- 
Ben Snyder                              

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.hacking,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Graphics Library for C/C++
Date: 10 Aug 1999 13:14:26 -0700

In article <7opt1p$phu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>I'm looking any available graphics library for C/C++.  I've looked on
>the net and can't seem to find any.  I found reference to a library
>called gpc-graphics++.h but I can't seem to find it anywhere.  Any help
>would be appreciated.  Thanks.
 
Why would you even think of using C++?? this does not make any sense.

Use Java man! It has all the graphics API's you could dream of, and
it is portable too, and much better language, and much easier to
work with. Java is it for graphics.

Steven.


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From: Igor Raznatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Can't log in
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:53:07 -0500

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For some strange reason, I am receving this message when I try to log
on:

"Startup program /etc/X11/xdm/GiveConsole exited with non-zero status.
please contact your system administrator."

I have to add that I have a PC 350mhz with Mandrake on a 3.8Gb
partition. It boots directly in level 5 so now I cant access prompt
(frustrating right)...Can someone help me with this?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: TCL/TK AOL-IM ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:10:01 GMT

Joseph S. White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi All,
: 
: In the TCL/TK AOL-IM I recieve the news from CNN and
: Slashdot. It gives you a one line brief news statement, and
: if you hold your mouse cursor over the a line of news a
: context box will pop-up giving you more info, the web site
: address etc. Is there a way to make AOL-IM launch that page
: in Netscape?

Well, you hold the mouse cursor, and right-click on it, and it will pop up
more info.  If you double-click (MB1, usually left), it'll tell a currently
running Netscape to display that page.  I don't remember if it'll start a
Netscape for you, though.  One way to find out, but since I'm not at my
system, I can't.

        Stu

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:46:00 -0700

"W.A. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Your stupidity overwealms me.

> There are no solutions to this problem without making someone, somewhere
> "feel bad". The key is to deal with genuine vs. imagined "need". Able-bodied
> adults who sponge off of the rest of society are (IMHO) criminals who need
> to be treated as such - end of THAT story.
> 
> If those persons are further so irresponsible as to create new life and
> refuse to provide all the basics - food, shelter, etc. then that constitutes
> child abuse. They should be arrested, tried and convicted of THAT crime.
> Parol terms should include "not making any more babies or creating any more
> pregnancies".
> 
> The children themselves need better care than can be provided by such
> miscreants. Orphanages are one possible, albeit not "ideal" solution. It's
> certainly better than doling out greater and greater sums to indigent
> parents. It's also interesting to note that the number of unwed births each
> year is approximately equal to the number of qualified adoptive parents who
> go wanting because there (supposedly) aren't enough babies to go around.
> This opens up another possible solution.

So, if your not married you can't have children right?  Fucking idiot you are.
> 
> None of this is perfect. This is the real world, and there are hard
> decisions to be made.
> 
> W.A. Scheer
> 
> Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7ogcj7$hij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Richard Kulisz schreef:
> >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>What is inhuman and immoral if you require people who have good health and
> are
> >>unemployed to do everything to get a job. Well, NOTHING. If they don't
> want to
> >>find a job then it is their own choiche and I think they shouldn't get
> more
> >>money from the government then the minimum required to stay alive. And
> perhaps
> >>they shouldn't get money at all.
> >
> >And what if they have kids? Oh, but that's Not Your Problem; sins of the
> >father and all that. Or maybe you want a special dispensation for families;
> >but that would just encourage those dirty welfare people to breed, wouldn't
> >it? Ahhh, that's the solution; forced sterilization!! All the problems are
> >solved that way, aren't they?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom)
Subject: PCMCIA cards in Linux, How?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:17:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have SuSE 6.1 installed with the PC Card (PCMCIA) services and my PC
has a Cardport ISA PCMCIA card reader which I intend to use solely for
flash memory ATA cards (it is not a laptop, just a normal PC).
Some parts seem to work:

- inserting the card: beep boop
- cardctl commands tell me:
#cardctl status
Socket 0:
  5V 16-bit card present
  Function 0: ready
#cardctl config
  Socket 0:
  Vcc = 5.0, Vpp1 = 5.0, Vpp2 = 5.0
- however:
#cat /var/run/pcmcia-scheme

i.e. nothing!
- and running cardinfo tells me in the various fields that it is an
  "ATA/IDE Fixed Disk" and the state is "ready", but no "device",
  no "IO ports" and no "interrupt".
- the "ide.opts" is:
*,*,*,1)
    DO_FSTAB="y" ; DO_FSCK="n" ; DO_MOUNT="y"
    FSTYPE="msdos"
    OPTS=""
    MOUNTPT="/ide"
    ;;
*,*,*)
    PARTS="1"
    ;;
esac
as per SuSE, which delivered this file, but with all lines commented
out.

The problem is that I don't know what to expect.  I consulted the
HOWTO-PCMCIA, but it does not tell me how I would be able to access the
files (msdos file system) on these cards.

As far as I can figure out, it should mount the card file system
under /ide (as per ide.opts) when I insert the card, but it is not.
The "ide" script in /etc/pcmcia calls upon /etc/pcmcia/scheme,
I guess to get the $DEVICE, but that file has only 1 character "\n"
and is only created at boot time (i.e. not when I insert the card).
There is also no line added to the /etc/fstab, to mount the card.

Do I need to supply a "scheme", a $DEVICE", and if so, how and what?
Have I missed some essential parts in the doc?
Any clue as to how to get access to these PC cards under linux is
welcome (it works without porblems under M$).

-- 
Charles Stroom
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url:   http://www.stroom-schreurs.demon.nl/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:25:17 -0400

On 10 Aug 1999 13:49:31 GMT, Richard Kulisz wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

>And where the hell is "everywhere"? The UK, US, Canada, Australia
>and New Zealand? All the fucked up right-wing anglo-american nations!!

It's obvious from the above that you've never actually *been* to 
Australia. They have what the Americans would denigrate as "socialised 
medicine" ( I prefer to call it "accesible health care" ) , and the 
government spends less per citizen than the US government.

BTW, can you name a nation that is not "fucked up" ? 

-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY  PPP NOT WORK !!
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:57:59 GMT

trivial it is for your set up(needed you net work running, ipchains
installed and linux kernel 2.2.x)
try these lines from command line in this order

ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j MASQ
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

insmod ip_masq_ftp

If no errors then you are up and running, put those lines in your
/etc/rc.local and it will do them at boot up.

That of course is about as minimal as you can get, but it works.  You
will be able to access the modem (ppp0) on linux simultaneouly by all
clients, including linux.  BTW  if you are on cable or such that
accesses internet by ether card  merely make the -i ppp0 into -i
eth(x)

g'Luk





>Hi Tom,
>Not quite sure what your trying to do but it seems like you want to give
>your local subnet access to the internet using your Linux machine to
>"masqurade" traffic to your ppp0 link. This is not as simple as you make it
>out to be. You cannot simply add the ppp0 default gateway address to your
>routing table. You must set up "IP Masqurading". This is not trivial and I
>don't recall the presice procedure but I will try and describe it roughly.
>First thing you want to do it get you local network and dial-up setup




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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dvips and RH6.0
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:19:39 -0400

Greetings,
I dvips a .dvi file ( produced with latex) in Red Hat 6.0; but instead
of getting a .ps file, it prints out the file. How do I make it generate
a postscript file ?

Thanks,
Ramin Sina


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Kernel RECOMPILE
Date: 10 Aug 1999 21:21:49 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stewart 
Honsberger wrote:
>On 10 Aug 1999 03:25:19 GMT, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>>Also, some distributions require you to copy the new /usr/src/linux/System.map
>>to /usr/lib/modules/System.map-2.2.10 (but substitute your kernel version).
>
>I've never found that I was required to copy it over - I just got nagged
>that the kernel and map file didn't sync.

That's SuSE.  I've had trouble with Red Hat.  It makes symlinks at
boot time depending on which System.map-2.x.x it finds.
If the symlinks are wrong, modules won't load.
(For this reason, I consider Red Hat broken.  They ship a
system that won't compile and install the kernel as Linus
releases it.  When people fret about commercialization
straining the opensource model, that's the kind of thing
they're talking about.)


>>If this is your first kernel, don't use Lilo.  One step at a time.
>
>Why not? As long as you keep your functional kernel around - what's the
>problem?

The newcomer was asking for advice.  My advice was to keep your
install kernel around, instead of letting "make zlilo" destroy it.
Further, the automatic Lilo config that comes with the commercial
distributions will not do what this newcomer needs to do.
Therefore, the newcomer has three choices:
1.  try to use the lilo automation that came with her or his disto
and get frustrated
2.  learn to configure lilo, to install an untested kernel that
might not work, or
3.  postpone learning to configure lilo until kernel making is
out of the way.
As anyone who has ever worked a help desk could tell you, go for the
option that poses the least chance of failure and frustration for
the newcomer.  Installing Linux is not a test of macho hacker
manliness.  We're trying to help the guy escape from the
Microsoft Nightmare, not challenge him with our guru learning curve.

And even experienced macho hackers test one thing at a time
instead of everything at once.


> I hate booting from a floppy (It takes so damned LONG!).

I hate solving problems with three variables instead of three
problems with one variable each.
You need a good kernel to boot with LILO.   But you don't
need LILO to boot a good kernel.  One step at a time.
You only have to boot the floppy kernel once.


>When I compiled my first kernel, I left the one that came with SuSE sitting
>in my /boot directory for a little over a month.

Too bad "make zlilo" doesn't offer that option.


>I don't see any point in going through all this;
>
>>cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /dev/fd0u1440
>>floppycontrol -f
>>cmp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /dev/fd0u1440

The quality of 1.44 MB diskettes declines every year.
The cp(1) command *attempts* to make a bootimage floppy.

But the only way to be sure it succeeded is to
flush the floppy driver's buffers and compare the floppy
against the file.  (If you don't like "floppycontrol -f"
you can pop out the diskette and shove it back in, which 
has the same effect.)  If you don't flush the buffers, the 
data that cmp(1) reads from "/dev/fd0u1440" will be coming from
main memory, not from the suspect surface of the floppy disk.

I use the fixed format driver because
for the seven years I have been using Linux it has been a
lot more reliable than the autosensing driver.


Cameron
http://petra.greens.org/~cls/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Weigand)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS?
Date: 10 Aug 1999 23:21:47 +0200

Paul Hovnanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I'm no expert on this subject, but might the CPU power use at idle
>depend on exactlt what the OS does in its idle loop? In order to
>truly idle the CPU, the OS can't just have the scheduler running
>something in a loop. That would keep the CPU awake. 

... which is precisely why Linux (on Intel, at least) executes the
'hlt' instruction in its idle task, which halts all processor activity 
(until the processor is woken by the next hardware interrupt).

-- 
  Ulrich Weigand,
  IMMD 1, Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg,
  Martensstr. 3, D-91058 Erlangen, Phone: +49 9131 85-7688

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From: Ben Iglauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Source for Gnome Screen Savers?
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:29:20 -0500

I want to add my own screen savers to those that are available from the
gnome / enlightenment desktop settings. Does any one have any pointers
to info/source on these screen savers? I found the gnome developer site,
but can't find the source I need, nor any info on how the screen savers
work.

Thanks in advance!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: 10 Aug 1999 18:42:20 -0400

"Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "W.A. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Your stupidity overwealms me.

> > There are no solutions to this problem without making someone, somewhere
> > "feel bad". The key is to deal with genuine vs. imagined "need". 
> > Able-bodied adults who sponge off of the rest of society are (IMHO) 
> > criminals who need to be treated as such - end of THAT story.

A not-uncommon sentiment. Do what you want, but don't be a burden to others.

> > If those persons are further so irresponsible as to create new life and
> > refuse to provide all the basics - food, shelter, etc. then that 
> > constitutes child abuse. They should be arrested, tried and convicted 
> > of THAT crime. Parol terms should include "not making any more babies 
> > or creating any more pregnancies".

Well, unless they better themselves and their situation. When dealing
with people you always want a carrot *and* a stick.
 
[snip]

> So, if your not married you can't have children right?  Fucking idiot 
> you are.

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem here.

Being able to provide for your offspring, and not place the burden of
supporting them on others has nothing directly to do with being married.
It's not an unreasonable idea, and it runs throughout many cultures: that
you should only be allowed to have the children (and wives, in some places)
you can afford.

Can you address the issue with swearing a blue streak?

> > Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7ogcj7$hij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>Richard Kulisz schreef:
> > >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >>What is inhuman and immoral if you require people who have good health 
> > >>and are unemployed to do everything to get a job. Well, NOTHING. If 
> > >>they don't want to find a job then it is their own choiche and I think 
> > >>they shouldn't get more money from the government then the minimum 
> > >>required to stay alive. And perhaps they shouldn't get money at all.

Not unreasonable, and it seems to be becoming a more common sentiment, as
the aftereffects of our failed welfare state experiment become more obvious.

> > >And what if they have kids? 

Before or after they can't afford them and choose not to work? 

If they have kids after, well then they should be subject to *some* form of 
disincentive, as opposed to being supported by the state and the labor of 
others, and thereby rewarded for their incredibly selfish and antisocial
behavior.

If they had kids already, and decide not to work to support them, then 
maybe the children should be placed in the custody of someone better able
to raise them properly.

> > >Oh, but that's Not Your Problem; sins of the
> > >father and all that. Or maybe you want a special dispensation for 
> > >families; but that would just encourage those dirty welfare people to 
> > >breed, wouldn't it? Ahhh, that's the solution; forced sterilization!! 

Lovely. Many areas in the US *did* have a system that encouraged single
unemployed mothers to have as many kids as they could. That's a problem
that needs to be addressed. 

> > >All the problems are
> > >solved that way, aren't they?

What's wrong with individual reponsibility? 

-Greg


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: tar hoses system
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:38:16 GMT

All,

I have a pentium running RH 5.2.  Installed is an adaptec 1520 card,
with a sony sdt-s7200 external tape drive attached.  When I try to tar a
filesystem to the tape drive (running DDS-2 tapes) after a few minutes
the system becomes totally non responsive.  Now, I can't have this
because this box is running critical DNS, DHCP, and web servcies.  Any
ideas?  I'm not doing anything crazy, just a simple tar:

tar cvf /dev/st0 /download

where download is a filesystem (/dev/hda6 but that shouldn't matter)

When I mean non responsive, I mean completely...does not service DNS
requests, cannot telnet to it, can't input via the keyboard, won't
listen to screaming, etc.

If anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate it!

Greg


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From: Huub van Niekerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.config
Subject: Re: LS-120
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:33:39 +0200

Yes, it does!!! I have one as /dev/hdd (e.g. 2nd IDE, slave). No driver
needed. Just create under the /mount directory the /LS120 subdirectory. Then
in /etc/fstab add a line containing "/dev/hdd    /mnt/ls120    msdos
noauto,rw    0 0" and all you have to do is: mount /dev/hdd and cd /mnt/ls120.

Don't worry about the message about the blocks and sizes you'll probably get.

Good luck,

Huub

dinh_dat wrote:

> Does Linux support LS-120? I have one work well under Window but I don't
>
> know how to make it work under Linux? Can anybody help? Thanks in advance.
>
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From: "Brian D. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Login thru AIX authentication
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:11:38 -0400

I'm trying to make a Linux client that will authenticate users against
an established AIX userbase.  The user's home directory would be their
AFS home directory (got AFS 3.5 working, this works fine).  I could copy
the /etc/passwd from the AIX machine, but how would I get the password
database?  Or is there a PAM that would do something like this?

Thanks...please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

brian


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