Linux-Misc Digest #69, Volume #27 Fri, 9 Feb 01 17:13:03 EST
Contents:
playing movies halts internet connection ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WEb Cam for Newbi ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Mustek handheld scanner under Wine? or kernel 2.2/2.4 driver? (John Girash)
Re: How do I write this for Linux? (Harlan Grove)
To flamers [Was: Please visit my 3D graphics site] (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner (okset)
Re: WEb Cam for Newbi ("Bob")
user satisfaction with Linux OS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
VESA energy saver with a new 2.4.0 kernel? (Otto J. Makela)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
IdleTimeout in Openssh v.2.3? ("rbtsai")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Re: linux - palm ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Karel Jansens)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Karel Jansens)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:35:44 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: playing movies halts internet connection
hi
i've noticed that when i play movies on linux (mpg, rm, avi etc), i stop
receiving data on my internet connection. i may receive the odd 100 or
so bytes every now and then, but as long as i'm playing the movie, my
internet connection if effectively dead.
anyone know why this happens???
thanks
ali
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WEb Cam for Newbi
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:12:45 +0100
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> at some VERY easy to setup and use Webcam code to run on a linx box. The box
I just set up a usb camera with no problem .. I had to be careful to
get one with a supported chipset - in my case the creative labs
webcam plus (not the go, or go plus) model ct6840. It looks like a
little black dog. It has a ov511+ chip.
It was just a question of compiling the 2.4.0 or 2.2.18 kernels and
modules, installing and booting, and loading the videodev.o and ov511.o
and i2c-core.o drivers, and the usb-uhci.o module (use ohci if you
don't have an intel motherboard), then starting xawtv.
Module Size Used by
ov511 30112 1
videodev 2252 1 [ov511]
hid 10396 0 (unused)
mousedev 3268 0 (unused)
usbmouse 1348 0 (unused)
input 2380 0 [hid mousedev usbmouse]
usb-uhci 17660 0 (unused)
usbcore 21576 0 [ov511 hid usbmouse usb-uhci]
i2c 3104 1 [tuner]
(for my 2.2.15 kernel .. to which I did a backport).
The linux-usb.org pages (or is it usb-linux.org?) were helpful,
though I complained to the author about the amera section :-).
Don't follow the instructions there (they tell you to get v4l2).
Do as I just said to do.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo.conf and boot up questions
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:22:24 +0100
Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stearns28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I could not edit lilo.conf becaue /etc is in the read-only root system.
> A useful hint (as it is something of a pain when the system won't
> boot properly because something is wrong and then won't let you change
> anything to fix it...): mount -o remount,rw /
You forgot the "n": "mount -wno remount /".
Petre
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mustek handheld scanner under Wine? or kernel 2.2/2.4 driver?
Date: 9 Feb 2001 15:47:54 -0500
Hi everyone,
I'm kind of sad that my cute little Matador 256 scanner (a souped-up M105)
isn't supported beyond kernel 2.0. At least, I can't get scan-driver-1.8
or m105-driver-1.9 to compile, and a deja.com search shows that others have
the same problem.
The deja search also hinted that it's possible to use my scanner and its
win3.1 software under Wine... but no details were available on configging
wine.conf etc. Can anyone help me out here? There seems to be a catch-22
as far as I can tell: the scanner software wants a DOS driver to be loaded
(m1904.sys, presumably for the "G1904" interface card), which I should be
able to accomplish in DOSEMU. But the software itself is Windows-only,
so I presume I should be trying to use Wine, not DOSEMU. Ack!
Of course, a linux-native solution would be best (I've seen reference to a
linux driver for the "G1906" card, but couldn't find the source anywhere).
Please help if you can!
jg
ps. if desperate I could try the scary old std-mode Win3.1 in DOSEMU trick.
--
Take care young ladies and value your wine.
Be watchful of young men in their velvet prime.
Deeply they'll swallow from your finest kegs,
Then swiftly be gone, leaving bitter dregs.
Ah, bitter dregs.
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I write this for Linux?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:41:01 GMT
In article <4rXg6.2562$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ross Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>I need to make a socket operate in nonblocking mode. How can I
>rewrite the following Windows code for Linux...
>
>int nRet;
>u_long lOnOff = TRUE;
>nRet = ioctlsocket(nSock, FIONBIO, (u_long *)&lOnOff);
The Windows docs are occasionally informative. From
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winsock/wsapiref_7dde.htm
"Compatibility
This ioctlsocket function performs only a subset of functions on a
socket when compared to the ioctl function found in Berkeley sockets.
The ioctlsocket function has no command parameter equivalent to the
FIOASYNC of ioctl, and SIOCATMARK is the only socket-level command that
is supported by ioctlsocket."
Change 'ioctlsocket(' to 'ioctl(' and rather than including windows.h,
include sys/ioctl.h and sys/socket.h . Read the Linux documentation too.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: To flamers [Was: Please visit my 3D graphics site]
Date: 9 Feb 2001 20:53:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
"Robert Francois" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> http://www.geocities.com/bernardfrancois_1999
> --
> Greetz,
> Bernard Fran�ois - http://www.geocities.com/bernardfrancois_1999
Don't bother flaming this cross-poster; he probably won't even read any of
the newsgroups. [& he's probably from another platform]
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Unpacking ISO-images without a CD burner
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (okset)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:58:54 GMT
if you have a windows machine you can download isobuster or cdmage, they
will let you extract files from cd image
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From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WEb Cam for Newbi
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:04:04 -0000
This would probable help but my box has no usb ports and I already have a
bttv card :o(
If I get really desperate I may have to upgrade my machine and dump my video
card but this would be almost a last resort.
Thanks for the info though, if I do have to go this root then this will be
very handy.
Regards,
Bob
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > at some VERY easy to setup and use Webcam code to run on a linx box. The
box
>
> I just set up a usb camera with no problem .. I had to be careful to
> get one with a supported chipset - in my case the creative labs
> webcam plus (not the go, or go plus) model ct6840. It looks like a
> little black dog. It has a ov511+ chip.
>
> It was just a question of compiling the 2.4.0 or 2.2.18 kernels and
> modules, installing and booting, and loading the videodev.o and ov511.o
> and i2c-core.o drivers, and the usb-uhci.o module (use ohci if you
> don't have an intel motherboard), then starting xawtv.
>
> Module Size Used by
> ov511 30112 1
> videodev 2252 1 [ov511]
> hid 10396 0 (unused)
> mousedev 3268 0 (unused)
> usbmouse 1348 0 (unused)
> input 2380 0 [hid mousedev usbmouse]
> usb-uhci 17660 0 (unused)
> usbcore 21576 0 [ov511 hid usbmouse usb-uhci]
> i2c 3104 1 [tuner]
>
> (for my 2.2.15 kernel .. to which I did a backport).
>
> The linux-usb.org pages (or is it usb-linux.org?) were helpful,
> though I complained to the author about the amera section :-).
> Don't follow the instructions there (they tell you to get v4l2).
> Do as I just said to do.
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: user satisfaction with Linux OS
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:56:08 GMT
Let me apologize in advance to all who keep seeing this message. I am
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Assistance will be greatly appreciated. To all those who have filled
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Crossposted-To: sfnet.atk.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: VESA energy saver with a new 2.4.0 kernel?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto J. Makela)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 21:13:51 GMT
I assume the whole logic behind the VESA energy saving system has
changed, or something, because the settings in XF86Config-4 which
worked well with a older kernel no longer switch my monitor to energy
saving from the login screen, nor does the Gnome screen saver ever
switch over to energy saving mode.
How should I proceed?
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:18:57 -0500
"Brian V. Smith" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
> |> False premise. I'm a registered LIBERTARIAN, asshole.
>
> Ooooh, We're in the presense of a master debater.
Leave your girlfriend out of this.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
> Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
>
> To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
> glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
> as it needs to be.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "rbtsai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IdleTimeout in Openssh v.2.3?
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:21:25 -0500
Does anyone know how to set the IdleTimeout in OpenSSH 2.3.0p1? Is it
available?
Thanks,
Robert Tsai
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 21:33:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : How can you know, think, affirm or deny anything if you don't
:> : believe anything?
:> : "The Earth is positivly, absolutly not flat", implies that I have some
:> : beliefs concerning the shape of the Earth.
:> : Please give me one example of a subject that I deny a statement,
:> : but don't have any belief associated with it.
:> You owe me $1000. Pay up. If you deny this, is that a new
:> belief on your part that you didn't have before you read this
:> post?
: Sure is.
Then we are at an impasse. To me, such a thing is not a belief.
Hearing a claim and not believing it is identical to not having
heard the claim in the first place, in terms of how much quantity
of belief you have about said claim.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux - palm
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 21:40:52 GMT
Thanks,
I use pilot-link now, I don't use jpilot because I find GUI's to
limiting. I use a couple other usefull utilities as well, let me know
if you'd like to hear about them.
Just thought jetsync looked interesting so I think I"ll work on the
build problems this weekend.
Thanks,
Carson
In article <961f2i$4mi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just use pilot-link and jpilot (find on freshmeat), they work great.
> --
> Microsoft is not the answer, its the question.
> And the answer is no. www.badran.co.uk
>
--
Carson R. Wilcox
Senior Architect
DMR Consulting Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:51:15 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > "God" is, by definition, "the First Cause".
>
> Is it? So all the greek gods weren't gods then? Because they all originated
> from some other higher power... And then THAT higher power had an ancestry
> too.
>
> They same could be said for almost every pantheistic religion out there.
>
Actually, the classic Greek mythology did have a divine entity which
comes very close to the definition I gave; they called her Fate.
Most pantheistic religions are more akin to animism, but 'evolved'
pantheism will usually include a creation myth.
What I was trying to make clear is that to a modern, monotheistically
inclined, religeous person (I really should have included those
limitations; that's what you get for assuming too much) God is the
first cause. There is no need to come up with meta-god or grandad god,
because the line (that's the line of causality, that is) stops at God.
That is also the reason why a religeous person shouldn't be bothered
with trying to find an explanation for God, because He _is_ the
explanation.
Is there a philosophy newsgroups somewhere where this discussion would
not be so wildly off-topic?
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:52:19 +0100
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "God" is, by definition, "the First Cause".
>
> this is begs the question and renders your argment completely
> meaningless.
>
I am afraid this doesn't parse at all. Could you rephrase that,
please?
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 9 Feb 2001 21:59:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Steve Mading wrote:
:>
:> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> : A religeous person does not need to explain the origin of God (and he
:> : will freely admit that he can't).
:>
:> This whole line of arguing was originally coined ages ago NOT as its
:> own proof that atheism is correct, but merely as a counterproof to
:> the theists' proof that God is necessary as a first cause of the
:> universe. The point is that adding God to the picture doesn't really
:> explain anything at all as to why there exists a universe. And if
:> you would say that God+Universe is a better explanation than just
:> Universe by itself, then why not posit a metagod that created God?
:> Why not a Metametagod that created that one, and so on? Wouldn't
:> the Metametagod explaination, by the same reasoning, be better
:> than just the God explanation? In summary: You don't solve
:> the first cause problem by introducing an infinite recursion of
:> causes. That's why the proof that God must exist because the
:> Universe needs a cause is bogus. This argument, by itself, does
:> not prove that god doesn't exist, its purpose is merely to shoot
:> down to the theists's first cause argument, and show how that
:> isn't a good enough reason by itself to convince anyone.
:>
: "God" is, by definition, "the First Cause".
False. If, for example, the Big Bang were proven to be the
first cause, I doubt that would count as "God" in anyone's
mind. "first cause" is NOT the definition of God - there is
quite a bit more to it that that. For one thing, "god" implies
some type of sentience. "God" is a much more narrow term than
just the vague "whatever it is that happens to be the cause of
the universe, we'll call that God." If you want to make "first
cause" be the sole definition of the word God, then you have to
stick with that consistently or else you engage in a false
equivocation fallacy the moment you talk of God being a thinking
entity.
I think it should be pretty clear, just to clarify a bit, that
the type of god that atheists don't believe in is the sentient
thinking creator type. The word "God" has been applied to so
many different things in the past that it has become a very
sloppy, almost useless term for logical debates.
: The term "Meta-God" is a
: contradictio in terminis.
Heh - not to a polytheist. Consider the greek pantheon, where
some gods were offspring of others.
: For a religeous person, the universe has a
: transcendent cause, which he calls God. It would be ridiculous to go
: any further, just as a cosmologist wouldn't try to go investigating
: before the Big Bang).
: Besides, I didn't claim that the existence of the universe proves the
: existence of God; I merely claimed that if you pose the universe
: itself as the Prime Cause, you're in a state of belief yourself.
Not about God, like you claimed (again, I'm speaking of the meaning
of "god" as a sentient thinking entity here). Keep it mind that
atheists DO NOT claim to lack *all* beliefs - just the singular
belief that any god exists. There may be many other beliefs an atheist
has, but they will all be *his* beliefs and not associated with
atheism. Some Buddhists are atheists (see the Buddha as just a smart
human, not as a god). Some atheists are Communists. Some are
Libertarians. Some are into that weird new-age crystal stuff, others
are much more skeptical. There really isn't a whole lot in
common between atheists - it's just a convienient label that exists
only because so much of the world is theist. If everyone was an
atheist, the label wouldn't even exist, and it would have no
real signifigance.
: (On a personal note: I feel no need to try to prove the existence of
: God. If God is indeed who He claims He is <G>, such endeavours are
: quite futile. And if not, why bother?)
Being European, you probably don't see much of this sort of thing,
but over here in the States there are a LOT of religious mental
midgets who keep trying to force their beliefs down other people's
throats by trying to mandate them in the legistlature. (Case in
point, the Kansas school board's decision that its okay to teach
Creationism disguised as science, despite the fact that it is
disproven by science.)
If I lived in a place without any rabidly stupid theists, I wouldn't
really spend any time thinking about the issue.
:
:> I have no idea why the Universe exists. The only difference
:> between myself and theists in that regard is that I have the
:> guts to admit it to myself.
:>
: A religeous person has no idea why the U/universe exists either, and
: he bloody well has the guts to admit that too.
Hardly. He claims it exists because his God made it.
: Bottom line: At a certain level we all have to accept a number of
: axioms. Yours may differ from those of a Hindu.
Yes. But by Occam's Razor, the less needlessly multiplied
axioms, the better.
:
:> : replacing the term "God" with "Universe" (I noticed you even write it
:> : with a capital) which, more than anything else, would typecast you as
:> : a religeous person.
:>
:> Not necessarily. Since your domain is .au, I assume English is your
:> first langauge? In English, as you should know, capital letters
:> are often used to indicate that you are talking about something
:> famous and unique. For example, "The White House" has a very
:> different connotation than "the white house". The first is most
:> likely referring to the famous US Presidential mansion, while the
:> second might be referring to some generic house that is white. In
:> this regard, "Universe" refers to the one-and-only well known
:> famous universe in which we live, while "universe" could refer to
:> an imaginary universe depicted in a series of novels, or perhaps
:> one universe of many in a theory of many alternate universes.
:>
:> Capital letters do not have to imply that the writer thinks the
:> object is worthy of worship or to be deified.
: Where did you get the .au (did my ISP f**k up again)? I'm from
: Belgium, and Dutch is my first language, but I get the point.
Sorry about that. I had you confused with a different person
I had just finished composing a reply to.
: The
: remark was meant as a smile-inducing side-note, hence why I put it
: between brackets. It was by no means material to my argument. If it
: offended you, please accept my apologies.
It didn't "offend", so much as it seemed like a false statement was
being implied that needed to be countered.
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