On Sunday 01 October 2006 23:17, Chris Hellyar wrote:
> That is extensions, pager modems, dial-out points for consultants,
> support connections for telemetery systems..  We have a dual channel
> primary rate with 40 lines enabled on one site, and a secondary feed to
> a second nortel PBX with a single channel and 8 channels.  2 consoles,
> and average 180 inbound calls an hour 8:30-5 weekdays.  (DDI and pilot)

Ah, you know what they say about assumptions :)

> > You are up for a wad going with an OSS solution too really. The handsets
> > are the killer. At around $250-$300 a handset that's near $40k - assuming
> > you need handsets.
>
> Yeah, dedicated handsets for an PBX are that sort of money anyway, the
> high spec ones we currently use a few of are over $500.

Yeah, $250-$300 is about as low as you'd want to go for a general use IP 
handset.

> > You'd also want either a highly redundant server or multiple redundant
> > boxes to handle that many handsets, depending of course on how critical
> > the phone system is to the business. So there's another $5-$10k
>
> You've obviously never seen a Nortel BCM PBX.  They are a standard ATX
> form factor motherboard running embedded NT or Linux with some special
> cards to handle Codec conversion in hardware and ISDN etc.  Nothing
> flash.  It's not until you get up to meridian scale PBX gear from Nortel
> it has anything that even looks vaguely redundant.  Medium sized PBX's
> (250 or less extensions) seem to be going the PC M/B way.  Must save a
> truck load in development.

Yeah, I come from a PC background rather than a telephony background so I 
don't have a lot of knowledge of traditional systems. I had heard that more 
off the shelf PBXs were going to standard kit. Still, if I was building an 
Asterisk server to service that amount of extensions I wouldn't do it without 
some sort of redundancy.

> I think some money perspective is in order. Two current tech proprietary
> IP solutions I've looked at for this have been in the order of
> $180-$200k.
>
> No pun intended, you're quite often talking telephone numbers when you
> price phone systems.  But, they are important to the function of any
> business, and as an IT person you can really limit your career if you
> get the phones wrong! :-)

Indeed, more traditional telephony systems are extortionately priced. You're 
paying stacks for that ATX board.

Taking into account your PRI interface cards and a channel bank or gateway for 
your DECT stuff you would probably still come in under $20-$30k. Add that to 
your $40k for the handsets (and another $5k for some high spec handsets if 
needed) then you are still a mile away from a traditional solution.

As you can probably tell some of this is speculation from me as I haven't had 
first hand involvement with a system install of this size.

hads

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