I'm not really up on some of this, and my memory isn't great, but a legal expert on computer privacy and freedom from the University of Ottawa named Michael Geist has been blogging about current government bills being proposed or put into place by the Canadian Government, one of the laws or bills was about making big companies like google and facebook start paying money to Canadian News organizations for sharing Canadian News links, I think maybe this is a little bit like the group 'openmedia dot ca' might have described about a European law getting to place that they phrased as a 'link tax'. Although the idea is supposedly to support Canadian News media, which is starting to lose a lot of money to social media (and those who control it), I think there is a comment I saw of Michael Geist's where he mentions that the changes could affects 'all users', and not just (if I am remembering the post correctly) news media, ie big tech might start supposedly having to pay regular users for sharing links or alternately blocking all of their link sharing so as not to have to pay, and or regular users who share news links, would they have to pay the news media because they shared their links? I'm probably getting a lot of this wrong, I think there is better info about some of this available online from people who have looked at it...
Also, there was a court injunction (that now has a stay from another court) against the USA Biden Administration for censoring American's (and possibly other peoples', as well) social media posts on many issues, election issues, fakzine issues, climate change, Hunter Biden's laptop emails, so like ongoing legal and court issues, etc that were factually true, so the injunction had been that the administration couldn't contact the big tech companies that were doing the censoring, I noticed some censoring started to decrease for awhile, or become more hidden, so Matt Taibbi has talked about some of this in congressional or something hearings in the USA, called 'the twitter files', documents exposed about usa gov ordering twitter to censor certain things. RFK jr, who is running for president of the usa for 2024, has also started a lawsuit againt the usa gov for censoring him, and there were 12 people known as the 'disinformation dozen' who were cited by the biden information and some of the groups who were 'managing information' as sources for a lot of the 'supposed' disinformation about fakzines, one of them was someone named J0seph M3rc0la, who at one point had his bank accounts frozen by a bank he's been with for something like 20 years, as well as other execs in his business and family members (morgan chase bank), and he has recently had those bank accounts 'closed' (so I might be confusing some information) at any rate yeah so banks accounts were closed with no reason given on the sudden, other alternative media groups, some of who were called 'foreign disinformation agents', were having their funding cut off by usa interests, sometimes based on supposed embargoes of various countries that were paying journalists for their media, so disclosures of corruption by journalists, somewhat like julian assange type wikileaks disclosures, essentially were getting defunded, like when wikileaks was having paypal and other transactions blocked by those companies, etc, including for trying to pay for legal fees for court cases, etc. Some of the information the 'disinformation dozen' were sharing has been proven to be true, and other groups, like the british medical journal, also made open statements and comments, like to facebook, about some of their journal article posts being called disinformation unfairly, without any accountability by the social media groups doing the censoring, etc, so things that were considered widely accepted, peer reviewed, etc, that were told to be censored got censored even though it was blocking true and important information, the argument is that if the tech governments and social media 'did it on their own', they are not 'required' to give 'free speech' on their platforms, and so supposedly the only reason there is even a free speech/ censorship debate for this kind of abusive stuff happening, is supposedly because in some cases, the usa gov or other governments (eu has a law in place and was warning / checking with elon musk, would twitter respect their laws of blocking certain things, and Elon Musk said twitter would obey the law, etc, although some countries have talked about blocking some social media companies completely if they do not 'respect' their 'laws' about 'unallowed posts/information'). Has anyone else been following any of this? The impacts of the Julian Assange case, for doing journalism, could impact journalists worldwide, criminalizing them (and allowing them to be like sent to the usa or other countries for posting 'defense secrets' that expose crimes of those countries, and basically put them in jail and try them for it, and it is possible this could be done to include anyone who shares any information, blogging etc, as 'criminal journalists', to be taken to said countries for exposing crimes of the powerful, and then put in jail for it, etc. So yeah, is this something anyone else has been looking into or would want to discuss or anything? Is this online meeting stuff, or people would prefer to do in person, or in person and everyone puts their cellphones in a faraday cage... LOL eheheh anyways. I guess I will see if this email goes through to the list. Michael Goguen On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:07 PM Richard Guy Briggs <r...@tricolour.ca> wrote: > On 2023-08-01 02:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > "That used to be GOSLINGS (Getting Open Source Logic Into GovernmentS). > > They're still going strong, but now meeting in the basement of the > > building TUPOC tried to squat..." > > > > Richard, you are certainly a fountain of knowledge, and I have stopped > questioning how you know all these things. Well, I have some questions.. I > might attend the meetup on Friday and bother these others with those, over > nachos. :) > > I have a couple of decades head start... And I guess my memory hasn't > left me yet... I'll likely go for nachos... > > > I can plan for this Thursday. If others don't necessarily want to > present, I stumbled across a legal article that we could discuss! > > I know, I know, but it is actually quite interesting: > https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/canadian-law-in-conflict-with-aspects-of-gpl/15982 > > > > -Katie > > ________________________________ > > From: Richard Guy Briggs <r...@tricolour.ca> > > Sent: 31 July 2023 22:36 > > To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi...@uottawa.ca> > > Cc: Ian E. Gorman <iegor...@gmail.com>; tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com>; > j...@messier.ca <j...@messier.ca>; Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org> > > Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting for August. > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > > On 2023-08-01 02:12, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > > Hi Tug and all, > > > > > > Sure, I???m happy to try to plan a meeting :) > > > > > > What I???m going to do is the following: plan a regular online meeting > and recommend that anyone that would like to attend something in person, > which is also awesome, attend this: > https://www.meetup.com/opensourcenerdsandnachos/ > > > > That used to be GOSLINGS (Getting Open Source Logic Into GovernmentS). > > They're still going strong, but now meeting in the basement of the > > building TUPOC tried to squat... > > > > > This also means that I would recommend we have our meeting next > Thursday (August 10). Would that work, or should I try to plan for this > Thursday? > > > > I'd somewhat strongly recommend sticking with the first Thursday. (But > > after the regular date is somewhat better than before so those regulars > > expecting it won't miss it.) > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Katie > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Ian E. Gorman <iegor...@gmail.com> > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 9:02:34 PM > > > To: tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>; j...@messier.ca < > j...@messier.ca>; Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org> > > > Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting for August. > > > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > I would like to have a meeting, even though I have nothing to bring. > > > > > > Iam > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:11???PM tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com<mailto: > tug.willi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > I don't recall Timothy offering to give a presentation. Did emails go > missing? > > > > > > > > > I've not prepared anything, and haven't heard of anyone (until Katie's > offer in this email). > > > > > > > > > Last month I was going to propose a link to meet, despite there being > no planned talks, but as there were problems with spam filters, I just put > a notice cancelling the meeting on the website. > > > > > > > > > I might or might not be able to attend a meeting this week, so it > seemed a bit bad to propose a meeting. I know John was trying to arrange > something, but I've not heard much, and I haven't had time these past > couple of weeks to check in. > > > > > > > > > So Katie - do you want to kick off a meeting, and see where it pans > out from there? > > > > > > > > > Tug > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2023-07-31 18:09, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > > Hello Jean-Francois, > > > > > > I would really like to see a presentation by Timothy Forbes. However, > it may not be a good time for that. > > > > > > I have created a sequel to my first "Linux for the Wacom" presentation > that I could present if anyone is interested - I go into a specific > security concern and how Linux (openSUSE in this case) overcomes that. It > wouldn't take long to present, and I would appreciate thoughts/feedback. > > > > > > I would also be interested in inviting an attendee from my new > workplace who has expressed interest. :) > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Katie > > > ________________________________ > > > From: j...@messier.ca<mailto:j...@messier.ca> <j...@messier.ca><mailto: > j...@messier.ca> > > > Sent: 31 July 2023 15:03 > > > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> < > linux@linux-ottawa.org><mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> > > > Subject: [linux] Meeting for August. > > > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > > > > Is there a meeting this Thursday ? I know the July meeting ws > cancelled, > > > but do we have topics for this month ? > > > > > > Thanks :-) > > > > > > JF > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to > linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto: > linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org> > > > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > <mailto:linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org> > > > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > > Ian Earl Gorman | //www.gorman.ca/<http://www.gorman.ca/> | // > web.ncf.ca/iegorman/<http://web.ncf.ca/iegorman/> > > > //github.com/iegorman/<http://github.com/iegorman/> | // > www.linkedin.com/in/iegorman/<http://www.linkedin.com/in/iegorman/> > > > > slainte mhath, RGB > > -- > > Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\ -- ~\ < > hpv.tricolour.ca> > > <www.TriColour.ca<http://www.TriColour.ca>> -- \___ > o \@ @ Ride yer bike! > > Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% > > Vote! -- <greenparty.ca > >_____GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)________(*)(*)_________________ > > slainte mhath, RGB > -- > Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\ -- ~\ < > hpv.tricolour.ca> > <www.TriColour.ca> -- \___ o \@ @ Ride yer > bike! > Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% > Vote! -- <greenparty.ca > >_____GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)________(*)(*)_________________ > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > >
