I'm just going to send this again, and include myself as a recipient, since the email list doesn't send a copy of messages I sent back to me, just to see that it is actually going through, etc.
Feel free to just mention 'received' or something so I know the message is making it through to the list, etc. Michael Goguen On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:37 AM Michael Goguen <michael.gog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not really up on some of this, and my memory isn't great, but a legal > expert on computer privacy and freedom from the University of Ottawa named > Michael Geist has been blogging about current government bills being > proposed or put into place by the Canadian Government, one of the laws or > bills was about making big companies like google and facebook start paying > money to Canadian News organizations for sharing Canadian News links, I > think maybe this is a little bit like the group 'openmedia dot ca' might > have described about a European law getting to place that they phrased as a > 'link tax'. Although the idea is supposedly to support Canadian News > media, which is starting to lose a lot of money to social media (and those > who control it), I think there is a comment I saw of Michael Geist's where > he mentions that the changes could affects 'all users', and not just (if I > am remembering the post correctly) news media, ie big tech might start > supposedly having to pay regular users for sharing links or alternately > blocking all of their link sharing so as not to have to pay, and or regular > users who share news links, would they have to pay the news media because > they shared their links? I'm probably getting a lot of this wrong, I think > there is better info about some of this available online from people who > have looked at it... > > Also, there was a court injunction (that now has a stay from another > court) against the USA Biden Administration for censoring American's (and > possibly other peoples', as well) social media posts on many issues, > election issues, fakzine issues, climate change, Hunter Biden's laptop > emails, so like ongoing legal and court issues, etc that were factually > true, so the injunction had been that the administration couldn't contact > the big tech companies that were doing the censoring, I noticed some > censoring started to decrease for awhile, or become more hidden, so Matt > Taibbi has talked about some of this in congressional or something hearings > in the USA, called 'the twitter files', documents exposed about usa gov > ordering twitter to censor certain things. RFK jr, who is running for > president of the usa for 2024, has also started a lawsuit againt the usa > gov for censoring him, and there were 12 people known as the > 'disinformation dozen' who were cited by the biden information and some of > the groups who were 'managing information' as sources for a lot of the > 'supposed' disinformation about fakzines, one of them was someone named > J0seph M3rc0la, who at one point had his bank accounts frozen by a bank > he's been with for something like 20 years, as well as other execs in his > business and family members (morgan chase bank), and he has recently had > those bank accounts 'closed' (so I might be confusing some information) at > any rate yeah so banks accounts were closed with no reason given on the > sudden, other alternative media groups, some of who were called 'foreign > disinformation agents', were having their funding cut off by usa interests, > sometimes based on supposed embargoes of various countries that were paying > journalists for their media, so disclosures of corruption by journalists, > somewhat like julian assange type wikileaks disclosures, essentially were > getting defunded, like when wikileaks was having paypal and other > transactions blocked by those companies, etc, including for trying to pay > for legal fees for court cases, etc. Some of the information the > 'disinformation dozen' were sharing has been proven to be true, and other > groups, like the british medical journal, also made open statements and > comments, like to facebook, about some of their journal article posts being > called disinformation unfairly, without any accountability by the social > media groups doing the censoring, etc, so things that were considered > widely accepted, peer reviewed, etc, that were told to be censored got > censored even though it was blocking true and important information, the > argument is that if the tech governments and social media 'did it on their > own', they are not 'required' to give 'free speech' on their platforms, and > so supposedly the only reason there is even a free speech/ censorship > debate for this kind of abusive stuff happening, is supposedly because in > some cases, the usa gov or other governments (eu has a law in place and was > warning / checking with elon musk, would twitter respect their laws of > blocking certain things, and Elon Musk said twitter would obey the law, > etc, although some countries have talked about blocking some social media > companies completely if they do not 'respect' their 'laws' about 'unallowed > posts/information'). > > Has anyone else been following any of this? The impacts of the Julian > Assange case, for doing journalism, could impact journalists worldwide, > criminalizing them (and allowing them to be like sent to the usa or other > countries for posting 'defense secrets' that expose crimes of those > countries, and basically put them in jail and try them for it, and it is > possible this could be done to include anyone who shares any information, > blogging etc, as 'criminal journalists', to be taken to said countries for > exposing crimes of the powerful, and then put in jail for it, etc. > > So yeah, is this something anyone else has been looking into or would want > to discuss or anything? Is this online meeting stuff, or people would > prefer to do in person, or in person and everyone puts their cellphones in > a faraday cage... LOL eheheh anyways. > > I guess I will see if this email goes through to the list. > > > Michael Goguen > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 11:07 PM Richard Guy Briggs <r...@tricolour.ca> > wrote: > >> On 2023-08-01 02:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: >> > "That used to be GOSLINGS (Getting Open Source Logic Into GovernmentS). >> > They're still going strong, but now meeting in the basement of the >> > building TUPOC tried to squat..." >> > >> > Richard, you are certainly a fountain of knowledge, and I have stopped >> questioning how you know all these things. Well, I have some questions.. I >> might attend the meetup on Friday and bother these others with those, over >> nachos. :) >> >> I have a couple of decades head start... And I guess my memory hasn't >> left me yet... I'll likely go for nachos... >> >> > I can plan for this Thursday. If others don't necessarily want to >> present, I stumbled across a legal article that we could discuss! >> > I know, I know, but it is actually quite interesting: >> https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/canadian-law-in-conflict-with-aspects-of-gpl/15982 >> > >> > -Katie >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Richard Guy Briggs <r...@tricolour.ca> >> > Sent: 31 July 2023 22:36 >> > To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi...@uottawa.ca> >> > Cc: Ian E. Gorman <iegor...@gmail.com>; tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com>; >> j...@messier.ca <j...@messier.ca>; Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org> >> > Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting for August. >> > >> > Attention : courriel externe | external email >> > >> > On 2023-08-01 02:12, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: >> > > Hi Tug and all, >> > > >> > > Sure, I???m happy to try to plan a meeting :) >> > > >> > > What I???m going to do is the following: plan a regular online >> meeting and recommend that anyone that would like to attend something in >> person, which is also awesome, attend this: >> https://www.meetup.com/opensourcenerdsandnachos/ >> > >> > That used to be GOSLINGS (Getting Open Source Logic Into GovernmentS). >> > They're still going strong, but now meeting in the basement of the >> > building TUPOC tried to squat... >> > >> > > This also means that I would recommend we have our meeting next >> Thursday (August 10). Would that work, or should I try to plan for this >> Thursday? >> > >> > I'd somewhat strongly recommend sticking with the first Thursday. (But >> > after the regular date is somewhat better than before so those regulars >> > expecting it won't miss it.) >> > >> > > Sincerely, >> > > Katie >> > > ________________________________ >> > > From: Ian E. Gorman <iegor...@gmail.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 9:02:34 PM >> > > To: tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com> >> > > Cc: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>; j...@messier.ca < >> j...@messier.ca>; Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org> >> > > Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting for August. >> > > >> > > Attention : courriel externe | external email >> > > I would like to have a meeting, even though I have nothing to bring. >> > > >> > > Iam >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 9:11???PM tug <tug.willi...@gmail.com<mailto: >> tug.willi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't recall Timothy offering to give a presentation. Did emails go >> missing? >> > > >> > > >> > > I've not prepared anything, and haven't heard of anyone (until >> Katie's offer in this email). >> > > >> > > >> > > Last month I was going to propose a link to meet, despite there being >> no planned talks, but as there were problems with spam filters, I just put >> a notice cancelling the meeting on the website. >> > > >> > > >> > > I might or might not be able to attend a meeting this week, so it >> seemed a bit bad to propose a meeting. I know John was trying to arrange >> something, but I've not heard much, and I haven't had time these past >> couple of weeks to check in. >> > > >> > > >> > > So Katie - do you want to kick off a meeting, and see where it pans >> out from there? >> > > >> > > >> > > Tug >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 2023-07-31 18:09, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: >> > > Hello Jean-Francois, >> > > >> > > I would really like to see a presentation by Timothy Forbes. >> However, it may not be a good time for that. >> > > >> > > I have created a sequel to my first "Linux for the Wacom" >> presentation that I could present if anyone is interested - I go into a >> specific security concern and how Linux (openSUSE in this case) overcomes >> that. It wouldn't take long to present, and I would appreciate >> thoughts/feedback. >> > > >> > > I would also be interested in inviting an attendee from my new >> workplace who has expressed interest. :) >> > > >> > > Sincerely, >> > > Katie >> > > ________________________________ >> > > From: j...@messier.ca<mailto:j...@messier.ca> <j...@messier.ca><mailto: >> j...@messier.ca> >> > > Sent: 31 July 2023 15:03 >> > > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> < >> linux@linux-ottawa.org><mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org> >> > > Subject: [linux] Meeting for August. >> > > >> > > Attention : courriel externe | external email >> > > >> > > Is there a meeting this Thursday ? I know the July meeting ws >> cancelled, >> > > but do we have topics for this month ? >> > > >> > > Thanks :-) >> > > >> > > JF >> > > >> > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to >> linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto: >> linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org> >> > > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >> <mailto:linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org> >> > > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> ______________________________________________________________________________ >> > > Ian Earl Gorman | //www.gorman.ca/<http://www.gorman.ca/> | // >> web.ncf.ca/iegorman/<http://web.ncf.ca/iegorman/> >> > > //github.com/iegorman/<http://github.com/iegorman/> | // >> www.linkedin.com/in/iegorman/<http://www.linkedin.com/in/iegorman/> >> > >> > slainte mhath, RGB >> > -- >> > Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\ -- ~\ < >> hpv.tricolour.ca> >> > <www.TriColour.ca<http://www.TriColour.ca>> -- \___ >> o \@ @ Ride yer bike! >> > Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% >> > Vote! -- <greenparty.ca >> >_____GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)________(*)(*)_________________ >> >> slainte mhath, RGB >> -- >> Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\ -- ~\ < >> hpv.tricolour.ca> >> <www.TriColour.ca> -- \___ o \@ @ Ride >> yer bike! >> Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% >> Vote! -- <greenparty.ca >> >_____GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)________(*)(*)_________________ >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >> To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >> >>
