Hi Joel,
In that model, assume that I obtain EID space from an EID allocator. At some
point in the future, the PITR service that that EID allocator provides becomes
inadequate. What is my can I do?
Are there competing EID allocators? If I go with a competing EID allocator, do
I have to renumber?
Ron
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel M. Halpern [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 12:02 PM
> To: Ronald Bonica; Dino Farinacci
> Cc: LISP mailing list list
> Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07
>
> A partial answer that has been suggested is that the oeprator who
> deploys the PITR is an EID allocator rather than a conventional /
> existing ISP. Unfortunately, if LISp succeeds it is not clear that the
> compensation levels can match the increasing demand for traffic in the
> critical periods.
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>
> On 12/4/13 11:51 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
> > Dino,
> >
> > I am not understanding your response. Let me ask the question another
> way.
> >
> > Assume that an operator deploys a PITR. What policy can that operator
> enforce to ensure that it is compensated for all (or even most) of the
> traffic that it carries across that PITR?
> >
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:44 AM
> >> To: Ronald Bonica
> >> Cc: Luigi Iannone; Geoff Huston; Sander Steffann; LISP mailing list
> >> list
> >> Subject: Re: [lisp] WGLC draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-07
> >>
> >>> Luigi,
> >>>
> >>> Is this really what is going to happen?
> >>>
> >>> If a PITR announces the entire /32 into the global Internet, it
> puts
> >> itself on the forwarding path for the entire /32, and incurs the
> cost
> >> associated with transporting traffic towards every site in that /32.
> >> This is supportable only if the PITR operator is somehow compensated
> >> for carrying all of that traffic.
> >>
> >> But maybe only from a few sources. But if the /32 needs to be
> divided
> >> based on region, then maybe /40s could be advertised. But to the
> >> point about "few sources", the more PITRs there are, the better the
> >> load is shared.
> >>
> >> And I envision PITRs will be deployed on on-path boxes anyways.
> Those
> >> boxes right now can route to the entire Internet, they are called PE
> >> boxes, are they not Ron?
> >>
> >>> Isn't it more likely that the PITR operator will advertise only
> >> slices of the /32, with each of those slices being assigned to
> either
> >> its customers (from whom it collects revenue) or the customers of
> >> other operators with whom it has made financial arrangements?
> >>
> >> No it won't be that way. EIDs are provider independent. If you do
> >> what we suggest, we make no forward progress.
> >>
> >> Dino
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Ron
> >>>
> >>>
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