Ben,

I greatly respect you and your opinions but I have always been of the mind that 
the genocidal war against the indigenous peoples of this continent, waged by 
the government we hold dear, as just as evil as anything the Nazis intended.

As I wrote, demonizing the other only obscures our own.  Sorry for your 
people's suffering, but many Zionists worked with the Nazis for their own 
purpose, and it was a terrorist attack on the King David Hotel that first 
"liberated" Israel from British control.

There is enough evil in violence for a purpose for any and all perpetuators. 

Let's get back to something we all agree with and love, living aboard boats. 

The sun never sets.  
A Piper

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Ben Okopnik <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 06:19:14PM -0600, Gregg Dennhardt wrote:
>> Ben:
>> 
>> Not justifying Nazi. Just stating fact as recounted on The Military Channel.
> 
> You're not stating any facts; you're rehashing your interpretation of
> someone else's dramatization. The only _fact_ here is that you chose to
> justify Nazi atrocities, and to defend them with "in war all sides of a
> conflict often engage in such." There's no equivalence here - and your
> implication that there was is sickening.
> 
>> "U-boat War in the Atlantic". Plays various times. Our firing on
>> U-boats documented.
> 
> No kidding? We actually fired on armed, military belligerents who
> sneaked up and murdered non-combatants? Shocking. But this isn't about
> whether we shot at U-Boats; this is about your huffing how it's *our*
> fault that the innocent, honorable Nazis _would_ have saved our people
> if they could, if only those horrible US airmen had been nicer to them.
> 
>> Will not respond further.
> 
> Excellent. I asked for an end to your rhetoric, and that will accomplish
> it.
> 
> The fact that you originally spouted nonsense isn't anything horrible;
> that happens to all of us at some point. Once it's pointed out to you,
> though, the reasonable response is something like "oh, sorry - made a
> mistake." You, however, chose to defend it - and your subject matter 
> along with it. That's lost you whatever margin of respect that I grant
> to strangers by default.
> 
> 
> Ben
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