On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:40:41PM -0500, A Michael Piper wrote:
> Ben,
>
> I greatly respect you and your opinions but I have always been of the
> mind that the genocidal war against the indigenous peoples of this
> continent, waged by the government we hold dear, as just as evil as
> anything the Nazis intended.
OK... but I don't understand how this pertains. Is this some sort of a
"clean hands" argument, where no one but those who are themselves
perfect in every way can claim injury?
> As I wrote, demonizing the other only obscures our own. Sorry for
> your people's suffering, but many Zionists worked with the Nazis for
> their own purpose, and it was a terrorist attack on the King David
> Hotel that first "liberated" Israel from British control.
Is there a reason you're bringing this up? I'm not asking because it
causes me any discomfort or embarassment, but because, again, I'm truly
puzzled. In the first case, as sorry as I may feel for the American
Indians, I bear no responsibility whatsoever for those actions, and you
have never seen me justifying or defending them (side note: among the
odd results of my wild careening through this life is the fact that I'm
an honorary Sioux Indian. Can't wear eagle feathers - gotta be born into
the tribe - but I am indeed ranked a warrior. Longish story, that one.)
As to the second, I'm neither a Zionist nor an Israeli citizen, and -
again - have not tried to justify or defend those actions. So... what
was your point here?
> There is enough evil in violence for a purpose for any and all
> perpetuators.
Agreed - although there is such a thing as justifiable violence.
> Let's get back to something we all agree with and love, living aboard boats.
That's what I'd like to see myself.
Ben
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