A Piper and the Group:

The ONLY way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Nothing else works. 

Gregg
S/V Neverland

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On Mar 2, 2011, at 9:40 PM, A Michael Piper <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ben,
> 
> I greatly respect you and your opinions but I have always been of the mind 
> that the genocidal war against the indigenous peoples of this continent, 
> waged by the government we hold dear, as just as evil as anything the Nazis 
> intended.
> 
> As I wrote, demonizing the other only obscures our own.  Sorry for your 
> people's suffering, but many Zionists worked with the Nazis for their own 
> purpose, and it was a terrorist attack on the King David Hotel that first 
> "liberated" Israel from British control.
> 
> There is enough evil in violence for a purpose for any and all perpetuators. 
> 
> Let's get back to something we all agree with and love, living aboard boats. 
> 
> The sun never sets.  
> A Piper
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Ben Okopnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 06:19:14PM -0600, Gregg Dennhardt wrote:
>>> Ben:
>>> 
>>> Not justifying Nazi. Just stating fact as recounted on The Military Channel.
>> 
>> You're not stating any facts; you're rehashing your interpretation of
>> someone else's dramatization. The only _fact_ here is that you chose to
>> justify Nazi atrocities, and to defend them with "in war all sides of a
>> conflict often engage in such." There's no equivalence here - and your
>> implication that there was is sickening.
>> 
>>> "U-boat War in the Atlantic". Plays various times. Our firing on
>>> U-boats documented.
>> 
>> No kidding? We actually fired on armed, military belligerents who
>> sneaked up and murdered non-combatants? Shocking. But this isn't about
>> whether we shot at U-Boats; this is about your huffing how it's *our*
>> fault that the innocent, honorable Nazis _would_ have saved our people
>> if they could, if only those horrible US airmen had been nicer to them.
>> 
>>> Will not respond further.
>> 
>> Excellent. I asked for an end to your rhetoric, and that will accomplish
>> it.
>> 
>> The fact that you originally spouted nonsense isn't anything horrible;
>> that happens to all of us at some point. Once it's pointed out to you,
>> though, the reasonable response is something like "oh, sorry - made a
>> mistake." You, however, chose to defend it - and your subject matter 
>> along with it. That's lost you whatever margin of respect that I grant
>> to strangers by default.
>> 
>> 
>> Ben
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