On 09/03/2013 04:20 PM, Jan Friberg wrote: > > I'd love to see some discussion around this. The Ubuntu community has > always worked hard to be inclusive of all kinds of contributions, > Ubuntu Membership is open to everyone: artists, translators, folks > running Ubuntu events, everyone contributing anything to Ubuntu and > the community! In fact, developers have their own track to go through > to get developer access to the project and that's separate from > regular membership and only really adds on developer-specific > privileges. Is there something about the process for Ubuntu Membership > that translators find unfair, or do they feel like they don't qualify? > > Beyond membership, do you have ideas on how to specifically gratify > translators? > > Thanks for the feedback! :) > > > I think it's an attitude in the community, not only in Ubuntu but in the > Linux community in general. Developers and graphic artist has always > created cool stuff while translators just write what some one else > already written in another language. > So how do we make the translator to be a cool guy? I have no good ideas > yet, but we are thinking about it in my team. > > About membership in general. I asked in our forum about how many was > applying for membership or thinking of starting to apply. So far 1 > person has shown any interest. > I hate to say this. But the interest for Ubuntu and/or Linux is > declining fast in Sweden. And I see this even in my team. > > > > > > Do you have any specific ideas for tools? Between the Ubuntu wiki, > mailing lists and loco.ubuntu.com <http://loco.ubuntu.com> the > California team hasn't felt a > huge need for our own website - all our website does is provide a > convenient URL for people to start off with, from there they are > linked off to the other pages, we don't actually host any content on > it. Makes it much easier to maintain and we don't have a major problem > if folks leave :) We also use social media a fair amount to get > announcements out beyond just our mailing list, the access to these > accounts is shared between a few trusted community members so no one > person has control of everything. > > I do acknowledge that as an English-speaking team we have an advantage > here, our team doesn't need to host local support forums and similar > but I thought there were localized spaces for many of the LoCo tools > being provided already. If not, perhaps that's a good discussion to > have - what tools do non-English teams need in the community that are > currently not being internationalized? What steps need to be taken to > do a better job of providing these things? I've found Canonical to be > much easier to work with when you approach them with specific plans > that include needs and goals. > > Ok, my team might be special and I don't know all the history behind it. > But we have our domain on a members private server. It host 1 drupal > portal, 1 forum, 2 wikis. Most informations in the wikis are outdated > about the year 2010, except comment fields that are daily filled with spam. > > So what you describe with the California team is what I like us to be. > But the lack of guidance and rules made the team do some bad mistakes in > the start up. > > A new team should get a rulebook that say; Use this tools first like > mailing lists, loco.ubuntu.com <http://loco.ubuntu.com>, wiki.ubuntu.com > <http://wiki.ubuntu.com> and if that is not enough to cover your need > you use this forum software with this style sheet, this portal software > with this style sheet and so on. > DO NOT INVENT YOUR OWN STUFF! > > Then I can turn to another team and ask them question how to set up and > run things because they use the same tools as me. > > People are eager to start up things in the beginning, but when the work > get overwhelming we end up with outdated information ans systems. > > >
All of that information already exists. http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/setup/ cJ -- Respectfully, Chris Johnston <[email protected]> QA Engineer - Canonical Ltd. www.ubuntu.com -- loco-contacts mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
