2013/9/4 Chris Johnston <[email protected]> > On 09/03/2013 04:20 PM, Jan Friberg wrote: > > > > I'd love to see some discussion around this. The Ubuntu community has > > always worked hard to be inclusive of all kinds of contributions, > > Ubuntu Membership is open to everyone: artists, translators, folks > > running Ubuntu events, everyone contributing anything to Ubuntu and > > the community! In fact, developers have their own track to go through > > to get developer access to the project and that's separate from > > regular membership and only really adds on developer-specific > > privileges. Is there something about the process for Ubuntu > Membership > > that translators find unfair, or do they feel like they don't > qualify? > > > > Beyond membership, do you have ideas on how to specifically gratify > > translators? > > > > Thanks for the feedback! :) > > > > > > I think it's an attitude in the community, not only in Ubuntu but in the > > Linux community in general. Developers and graphic artist has always > > created cool stuff while translators just write what some one else > > already written in another language. > > So how do we make the translator to be a cool guy? I have no good ideas > > yet, but we are thinking about it in my team. > > > > About membership in general. I asked in our forum about how many was > > applying for membership or thinking of starting to apply. So far 1 > > person has shown any interest. > > I hate to say this. But the interest for Ubuntu and/or Linux is > > declining fast in Sweden. And I see this even in my team. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any specific ideas for tools? Between the Ubuntu wiki, > > mailing lists and loco.ubuntu.com <http://loco.ubuntu.com> the > > California team hasn't felt a > > huge need for our own website - all our website does is provide a > > convenient URL for people to start off with, from there they are > > linked off to the other pages, we don't actually host any content on > > it. Makes it much easier to maintain and we don't have a major > problem > > if folks leave :) We also use social media a fair amount to get > > announcements out beyond just our mailing list, the access to these > > accounts is shared between a few trusted community members so no one > > person has control of everything. > > > > I do acknowledge that as an English-speaking team we have an > advantage > > here, our team doesn't need to host local support forums and similar > > but I thought there were localized spaces for many of the LoCo tools > > being provided already. If not, perhaps that's a good discussion to > > have - what tools do non-English teams need in the community that are > > currently not being internationalized? What steps need to be taken to > > do a better job of providing these things? I've found Canonical to be > > much easier to work with when you approach them with specific plans > > that include needs and goals. > > > > Ok, my team might be special and I don't know all the history behind it. > > But we have our domain on a members private server. It host 1 drupal > > portal, 1 forum, 2 wikis. Most informations in the wikis are outdated > > about the year 2010, except comment fields that are daily filled with > spam. > > > > So what you describe with the California team is what I like us to be. > > But the lack of guidance and rules made the team do some bad mistakes in > > the start up. > > > > A new team should get a rulebook that say; Use this tools first like > > mailing lists, loco.ubuntu.com <http://loco.ubuntu.com>, wiki.ubuntu.com > > <http://wiki.ubuntu.com> and if that is not enough to cover your need > > you use this forum software with this style sheet, this portal software > > with this style sheet and so on. > > DO NOT INVENT YOUR OWN STUFF! > > > > Then I can turn to another team and ask them question how to set up and > > run things because they use the same tools as me. > > > > People are eager to start up things in the beginning, but when the work > > get overwhelming we end up with outdated information ans systems. > > > > > > > > All of that information already exists. > > http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/setup/ > > Yeah I spent the morning reading the guide and compare it with the old team information I have. I don’t know if the information change through out the years or it just was a misunderstanding when our team started way back.
For what I can understand in the old logs and forum, our LoCo started as a web forum and then transformed to a LoCo. Thank you for the input. > cJ > > -- > Respectfully, > > Chris Johnston <[email protected]> > QA Engineer - Canonical Ltd. > www.ubuntu.com > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >
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