The LoCo Council want to help on this and other cases, but if people don't contact the LoCo council we can't do it as there are a lot of Teams and we can't know what is happening in everyone of them.
And because this is not an excuse, as soon as the new LoCo council is form we are going to contact every LoCo so see how is going and to help in what is needed. Cheers Pablo 2013/9/6 Javier Lopez <[email protected]> > On 05/09/13 at 09:11pm, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > It's nice to see some discussion on the list again. Frankly, I thought > that > > LoCos were just being phased out. > > > > A few years ago, as I got involved in Ubuntu-Women, and then the larger > > Ubuntu and Kubuntu communities, I was enthusiastic to get a local group > > going, and by wonderful chance, another woman had the same idea at the > same > > time, so we cooperated. We did things in the right way, got meetings > going, > > filed reports, etc. > > > > What we didn't realize is that the LoCo Council would be unable or > > uninterested in getting the 'old' team contact to give up his 'position'. > > He's still the contact of record; as far as I know, not even subbed to > this > > list. He's never responded to Linda or me (or anyone else that I know > of). > > We asked for help more than once, but nothing ever came of it. > > > > And then I discovered another layer of history here. We used to have an > > enthusiastic and active Pacific Northwest LoCo, but the Powers That Be > > deprecated such groups. It was at that point that the Washington group > was > > created, Chuck took that over, and has been a boat anchor ever since. > Those > > members who were enthusiastic back then, are no longer interested in > > helping out now. If I had to guess, I would say that they are still > bitter > > about their group being killed off. > > > > I don't know if someone else can overcome the weight of history here, but > > I'm no longer interested in trying. I'll help out, attend meetings, etc., > > but it is too difficult to swim against the current. It feels bad to type > > the previous sentence. It feels to me like all the energy and enthusiasm > on > > the part of local people has been tossed aside. > > > > I hope our example is not common. > > I hope it's uncommon too, however it seems to be at least a couple of > cases like > yours, the Ubuntu code of conduct states that people involved in the > project > should step down considerately, however some people don't do it, and there > is > not easy way to force it. > > I'd like to see a policy for leaders and contact persons in a way that > after > certain time the contact person is rotated. This could help to avoid this > situations and could be a good metric about how internal Loco Teams > performs > (healthy teams won't have troubles rotating leadership), also, it could be > an > opportunity for the Loco Council to mediate problems before they get > bigger and > people go away. > > > > > Valorie > > -- > > http://about.me/valoriez > > > -- > > loco-contacts mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts >
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