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On 8/8/2019 8:51 PM, BHL wrote: > How about basic use of vi? I don't think vi is really relevant to what a standard UNIX/Linux distro exam should be about. Some might argue that vi is the standard editor distributed with all Unices, which would however, be incorrect; we all know that ed is the standard editor, and vi is popular as is Emacs, both of these alternate choices being distributed with most Linus distros, as well as pico (alright, nano nowadays) with many. To remain distribution agnostic as much as is possible, I would contend that which $EDITOR is 'chosen' (and many distros default to nano) is more important an aspect than which. Which incarnation of vi is wrought with variations amongst the distros as well, with most not actually using vi by default, but rather, Vim, or Elvis. If coverage of a standard editor is to be included, then I would contend that the choice to do so should actually be with regards to the 'standard' editor - and that is 'ed'. > > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:50 > AM, Bryan J Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bear Giles <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> What about bastion hosts? I know some allow transparent SSH >> forwarding but aren't many configured to prohibit forwarding? >> You have to drop into a shell on the bastion and establish >> connections from it. >> >> >> Well, I do think we're getting beyond LPIC-1 and even 'common' >> setups. >> >> [OT] Anecdotal: Although nothing is more frustrating than a >> Windows, let alone Azure, jump host. I usually find the solution >> is to force a VMware or Windows admin to use even just 'nano' >> over such a connection, versus SSH jump (or even socks proxy). >> They quickly 'change their tune' on the solution. >> >> Anselm Lingnau <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Vi is like chemotherapy. It's a nasty business. There are >> legitimate situations where there's really no alternative to >> chemotherapy but that doesn't mean everyone should have it all >> the time. >> >> >> So why not just yank it then? If we're going to go from 2nd >> highest to absolute lowest, of which there are so _few_ 'Weight: >> 1' items already, why not just yank it altogether? >> >> That's why started this thread, hence ... >> >> G. Matthew Rice <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Looking at the comments from various people, though, there are >> no zeros for vi...so, unless people want to follow up on Bryan's >> break-fix vs rebuild-fix topic (which is what I think he was >> trying to do in this through)... >> >> If it's just a matter of how much vi to test, our individual >> opinions don't matter here. The next JTA will take care of that. >> Past JTAs have even eliminated entire objectives. >> >> >> Definitely JTA this. >> >> Because if interactive/visual text editing is going to go from >> being ... - Weighted 2nd highest, in the top 10 objectives To >> being ... - Weighted the absolute lowest, in the bottom 5 >> objectives Then why bother with it? >> >> And possibly then question even everything 'interactive' as >> secondary? We're certainly at that point for 2020+. >> >> - bjs >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing > list [email protected] > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > - -- Bradley D. Thornton Manager Network Services http://NorthTech.US TEL: +1.310.421.8268 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Find this cert at hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - https://www.enigmail.net/ iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEENWT7St9Eg6sLyiLAuIw5wQytyEkFAl1NgRoACgkQuIw5wQyt yEk/WwgAz9AGdGuwzTcOxVlH0XXGfJBetG+Djke3OKMYDjNq6oC/Yv5uIASOPRTv xzg77DGmIIFX7sKHUJUKoLe+lw/Ze5X+128YNl/J1kZn/QwTE4MzKO8l0XYJMNG+ bd9EUGeewCRXcQfXyZ5KimkbNEDi+2N6DoBbi6DCJMDLHvhube16KGrZWO2R/xpC JTtMe0OCyvjW+Ojafp7iTYwKZmd+EG0z7MiEx5Y82I/Pllojst/VL2qKfw+Xuc16 0pkd9bXVyvhfplOFo+in5XvErH9W1++P1Agz5BQwDunFkQaEFi7kwU1u2e75q4Rx Ts4Yryrg/bMVM6qpt42U4KRT53NacQ== =Ipi1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ lpi-examdev mailing list [email protected] https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
