How about basic use of vi?
Like controls and all.
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On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:50 AM, Bryan J Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bear Giles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What about bastion hosts? I know some allow transparent SSH forwarding but
>> aren't many configured to prohibit forwarding? You have to drop into a shell
>> on the bastion and establish connections from it.
>
> Well, I do think we're getting beyond LPIC-1 and even 'common' setups.
>
> [OT] Anecdotal: Although nothing is more frustrating than a Windows, let
> alone Azure, jump host. I usually find the solution is to force a VMware or
> Windows admin to use even just 'nano' over such a connection, versus SSH jump
> (or even socks proxy). They quickly 'change their tune' on the solution.
>
> Anselm Lingnau <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Vi is like chemotherapy. It's a nasty business. There are legitimate
>> situations where there's really no alternative to chemotherapy but that
>> doesn't mean everyone should have it all the time.
>
> So why not just yank it then? If we're going to go from 2nd highest to
> absolute lowest, of which there are so _few_ 'Weight: 1' items already, why
> not just yank it altogether?
>
> That's why started this thread, hence ...
>
> G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Looking at the comments from various people, though, there are no zeros for
>> vi...so, unless people want to follow up on Bryan's break-fix vs rebuild-fix
>> topic (which is what I think he was trying to do in this through)...
>
>> If it's just a matter of how much vi to test, our individual opinions don't
>> matter here. The next JTA will take care of that. Past JTAs have even
>> eliminated entire objectives.
>
> Definitely JTA this.
>
> Because if interactive/visual text editing is going to go from being ...
> - Weighted 2nd highest, in the top 10 objectives
> To being ...
> - Weighted the absolute lowest, in the bottom 5 objectives
> Then why bother with it?
>
> And possibly then question even everything 'interactive' as secondary? We're
> certainly at that point for 2020+.
>
> - bjs
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