I have been to MUK in a few years, but how many computer labs are there on
the campus and how many computers in these labs run linux? Are the labs for
general student use or do you have to be studying a technical field to use
the labs? I always wondered why there weren't more computer labs/internet
cafes that run linux. Since all the users will ever really do is check
e-mail and some word processing and maybe play some light games.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:23 AM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> One answer is not enough (and early) exposure to Linux. Other answers are
> best discussed off-list, lest I find myself having to invoke the 'misspoke
> defence' at a future date!
> There are a lot of initiatives that can help change this (incubator being
> one). Lets hope industry guys will get involved. It is far cheaper/more
> efficient in the long run to start training your future techies while they
> are still in school.
>
>
> On Apr 16, 2008, at 09:00, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
>
> > Hi P.
> >
> > Maybe we should discuss why MUK students are not using linux. After all
> > this
> > is the LUG (not the AUG ;-)
> >
> > When we went to the presentation of the third year students last year we
> > saw a
> > lot of php/mysql applications. These just run and install much nicer on
> > linux. That, in a normal world, would be a benifit for the students.
> >
> > As MUK is preparing students for the real world, and in the real world,
> > php &
> > mysql applications run on linux & apache mostly, training students in
> > that
> > setup is also not a bad idea.
> >
> > Well, i am preaching for my own church (and the AUG guys) again.
> >
> > Is there anything we can do to make that clear to MUK tutors & students?
> >
> > rgds,
> > reinier
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 06:24:52 P. A. Bagyenda wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed it would be sad.
> > > PC market share made Intel great. It lowered prices, and powered the
> > > Mhz war. It is doubtful that their chips were ever better,
> > > architecture-wise or in terms of raw speed. Even today. take a look at
> > > the Power 6 chip that IBM is touting recently. Or for that matter
> > > Sun's UltraSPARC 'Niagara' range. Can't Touch This, as MC Hammer would
> > > say!
> > >
> > >  The other day I had to explain to a bewildered second year (MUK)
> > > class why Java and its machine-independence was such a big deal way
> > > back then. They have grown up in a world where Computer = Intel =
> > > Windows, and can't understand all the fuss. (Sadly, Linux is not much
> > > in the running there, for reasons too long to recount.)
> > >
> > > P.
> > >
> > > On Apr 15, 2008, at 21:17, Niles Collins wrote:
> > >
> > >  Yeah, intel chips are better than Power PC chips, but i have very
> > > > little experience with Power PC chips. I always felt that if one
> > > > company dominated the PC chip market then that would stop
> > > > innovation. AMD makes great chips and that is all i buy but they are
> > > > still derivatives of the i386 architecture which i believe is an
> > > > intel standard. Intel seems to be locking up the micro chip market.
> > > > A lot of phone are going to start using their Atom processor now.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Mark Tinka
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Niles Collins wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Apple should have
> > > > > stayed with IBM and Power PC chips if they wanted to stop
> > > > > this from happening.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not a strong-enough case to ignore more superior
> > > > microprocessors (or so I think). You see even Cisco are
> > > > departing from Motorola Freescale and IBM's PPC in favour
> > > > of Intel-driven control planes.
> > > >
> > > > Copy-catting is a fact of life - Apple should figure out how
> > > > to deal with it.
> > > >
> > > > Mark.
> > > >
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> >
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