The internet cafe issue is definitly true. That is why i proposed to further 
develop OpenKiosk in the MUK project. I think that could give a positive push 
in this direction. (Actually, I think mostly far away from kampala, where 
people do not "know" that M$ is the "real" stuff. 



On Wednesday 16 April 2008 13:25:53 Niles Collins wrote:
> I have been to MUK in a few years, but how many computer labs are there on
> the campus and how many computers in these labs run linux? Are the labs for
> general student use or do you have to be studying a technical field to use
> the labs? I always wondered why there weren't more computer labs/internet
> cafes that run linux. Since all the users will ever really do is check
> e-mail and some word processing and maybe play some light games.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:23 AM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > One answer is not enough (and early) exposure to Linux. Other answers are
> > best discussed off-list, lest I find myself having to invoke the 'misspoke
> > defence' at a future date!
> > There are a lot of initiatives that can help change this (incubator being
> > one). Lets hope industry guys will get involved. It is far cheaper/more
> > efficient in the long run to start training your future techies while they
> > are still in school.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 16, 2008, at 09:00, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
> >
> > > Hi P.
> > >
> > > Maybe we should discuss why MUK students are not using linux. After all
> > > this
> > > is the LUG (not the AUG ;-)
> > >
> > > When we went to the presentation of the third year students last year we
> > > saw a
> > > lot of php/mysql applications. These just run and install much nicer on
> > > linux. That, in a normal world, would be a benifit for the students.
> > >
> > > As MUK is preparing students for the real world, and in the real world,
> > > php &
> > > mysql applications run on linux & apache mostly, training students in
> > > that
> > > setup is also not a bad idea.
> > >
> > > Well, i am preaching for my own church (and the AUG guys) again.
> > >
> > > Is there anything we can do to make that clear to MUK tutors & students?
> > >
> > > rgds,
> > > reinier
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 06:24:52 P. A. Bagyenda wrote:
> > >
> > > > Indeed it would be sad.
> > > > PC market share made Intel great. It lowered prices, and powered the
> > > > Mhz war. It is doubtful that their chips were ever better,
> > > > architecture-wise or in terms of raw speed. Even today. take a look at
> > > > the Power 6 chip that IBM is touting recently. Or for that matter
> > > > Sun's UltraSPARC 'Niagara' range. Can't Touch This, as MC Hammer would
> > > > say!
> > > >
> > > >  The other day I had to explain to a bewildered second year (MUK)
> > > > class why Java and its machine-independence was such a big deal way
> > > > back then. They have grown up in a world where Computer = Intel =
> > > > Windows, and can't understand all the fuss. (Sadly, Linux is not much
> > > > in the running there, for reasons too long to recount.)
> > > >
> > > > P.
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 15, 2008, at 21:17, Niles Collins wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Yeah, intel chips are better than Power PC chips, but i have very
> > > > > little experience with Power PC chips. I always felt that if one
> > > > > company dominated the PC chip market then that would stop
> > > > > innovation. AMD makes great chips and that is all i buy but they are
> > > > > still derivatives of the i386 architecture which i believe is an
> > > > > intel standard. Intel seems to be locking up the micro chip market.
> > > > > A lot of phone are going to start using their Atom processor now.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Mark Tinka
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Niles Collins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Apple should have
> > > > > > stayed with IBM and Power PC chips if they wanted to stop
> > > > > > this from happening.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not a strong-enough case to ignore more superior
> > > > > microprocessors (or so I think). You see even Cisco are
> > > > > departing from Motorola Freescale and IBM's PPC in favour
> > > > > of Intel-driven control planes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Copy-catting is a fact of life - Apple should figure out how
> > > > > to deal with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark.
> > > > >
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