'Twas ever thus. Gary
On 2016-08-05 10:25, John Mardinly wrote: > To me, the real tragedy of YouTube is that they pander to some of the > lowest forms of entertainment imaginable. I have, unfortunately learned > about some of them from my 14 year old daughter. Top of the trash heap > is PewDiePie, a purveyor of profanity, stupidity and trash with 42 > million subscribers and an income from YouTube of approximately $14 > Million dollars per year. My daughter is addicted to "Dan and Phil", > panderers of senseless nonsense who earn $6 Million per year from > 1.6 million subscribers. The list goes on and on ad nauseum. The old > adage that TV was the vast wasteland has been replaced by YouTube being > the vast wasteland. Whatever promise existed in the past for lutenists > to make some money on YouTube could be very well obliterated by > this assault from low budget, low skill set potty-mouthed amateurs > commandeering the attention of the juvenile audience. > > A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. > Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer > EMail: [1][email protected] > Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) > But don't call the lab....I won't be there! > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:41 AM, [3][email protected] wrote: > > Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he > might be in the wrong. > As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows > nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or > why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it. > I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off > the list and say to him - if this is what he did say > "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This > would save > you much mundane work making these unnecessary > transcriptions/arrangements". > Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn. > Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are > unnecessry. > If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps > you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you > have never met and say it to them in private. > That seems like harassment to me. > As ever > Monica > ----Original Message---- > From: [4][email protected] > Date: 05/08/2016 12:38 > To: "[5][email protected]"<[6][email protected]>, > "[7][email protected]. > uk"<[8][email protected]> > Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy > Dear Monica, > Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list > since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant > helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight, > a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in > this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit > one from conducting private communications if considered more > appropriate (and tactful..........). > In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow: > a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his > message yesterday. > And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally > with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway) > then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful > and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual > list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I > think.......... > regards, > Martyn. > ________________________________ > From: "[9][email protected]" <[10][email protected]> > To: LutList <[11][email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31 > Subject: [LUTE] Privacy > I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is > often the case with these arguments. > If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact > you directly if you accept them as friends. > This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator, nobody > decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has access > to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused. > As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted details > of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything > helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more useful > than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and are > grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here. We > have discussed this before. > Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a > one- > to-one correspondence with you? > Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too. > Monica > To get on or off this list see list information at > [12]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmout > h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ej > iz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=4R > N35hVJ-aidJXxnGs3QQSj_OsAPCPEjV5UhwDFp-SI&s=WA_kbpNKbNavctuGtJKkhcwIIhn > jqZxKZ9A8aPxdsOc&e> > References > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. tel:408-921-3253 > 3. mailto:[email protected] > 4. mailto:[email protected] > 5. mailto:[email protected] > 6. mailto:[email protected] > 7. mailto:[email protected] > 8. mailto:[email protected] > 9. mailto:[email protected] > 10. mailto:[email protected] > 11. mailto:[email protected] > 12. > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=CwICaQ&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A-1IxfAU&r=MAuGvnWTcVQkxORgQD0QS50ZicPM3Nw-61ygSK-LNEQ&m=4RN35hVJ-aidJXxnGs3QQSj_OsAPCPEjV5UhwDFp-SI&s=WA_kbpNKbNavctuGtJKkhcwIIhnjqZxKZ9A8aPxdsOc&e--
