True, but when PewDiePie makes $14M, Google makes money too, and they
know it. That's why the site is geared to stuff like that. It may be
good for my 401K, but Yuck!
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu
Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs)
But don't call the lab....I won't be there!
On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:25 AM, [3]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
But on the other hand you can listen to almost anything on You Tube.
Whenever our choirmaster comes up with a new anthem or mass setting or
the vicar discovers another hymn we haven't had before I can usually
find a recording of it instantly available on You Tube when I get home
from church. You pays your money and takes your choice. Whether the
artists make any money out of it is another matter.
As ever
MOnica
----Original Message----
From: [4]john.mardi...@asu.edu
Date: 05/08/2016 17:25
To: "M Hall"<[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: "LutList"<[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Martyn Hodgson"
<[7]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subj: [LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy
To me, the real tragedy of YouTube is that they pander to some of the
lowest forms of entertainment imaginable. I have, unfortunately
learned
about some of them from my 14 year old daughter. Top of the trash
heap
is PewDiePie, a purveyor of profanity, stupidity and trash with 42
million subscribers and an income from YouTube of approximately $14
Million dollars per year. My daughter is addicted to "Dan and Phil",
panderers of senseless nonsense who earn $6 Million per year from
1.6 million subscribers. The list goes on and on ad nauseum. The old
adage that TV was the vast wasteland has been replaced by YouTube
being
the vast wasteland. Whatever promise existed in the past for
lutenists
to make some money on YouTube could be very well obliterated by
this assault from low budget, low skill set potty-mouthed amateurs
commandeering the attention of the juvenile audience.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer
EMail: [1][8]john.mardi...@asu.edu
Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs)
But don't call the lab....I won't be there!
On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:41 AM, [3][9]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that
he
might be in the wrong.
As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows
nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it
or
why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it.
I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton
off
the list and say to him - if this is what he did say
"Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
would save
you much mundane work making these unnecessary
transcriptions/arrangements".
Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from
Martyn.
Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are
unnecessry.
If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps
you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom
you
have never met and say it to them in private.
That seems like harassment to me.
As ever
Monica
----Original Message----
From: [4][10]ari...@hotmail.co.uk
Date: 05/08/2016 12:38
To: "[5][11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"<[6][12]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>,
"[7][13]mjlh...@tiscali.co.
uk"<[8][14]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
Dear Monica,
Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list
since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant
helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a
slight,
a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in
this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't
prohibit
one from conducting private communications if considered more
appropriate (and tactful..........).
In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to
follow:
a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in
his
message yesterday.
And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things
personally
with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway)
then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful
and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from
individual
list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I
think..........
regards,
Martyn.
________________________________
From: "[9][15]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <[10][16]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
To: LutList <[11][17]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31
Subject: [LUTE] Privacy
I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is
often the case with these arguments.
If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact
you directly if you accept them as friends.
This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator,
nobody
decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has
access
to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused.
As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted
details
of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything
helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more
useful
than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and
are
grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here.
We
have discussed this before.
Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
one-
to-one correspondence with you?
Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too.
Monica
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