Christian et al. I block people that spam, bore or insult. The way the lutelist works means that such a filter is not perfect, but it helps a little. David Out
******************************* David van Ooijen [1][email protected] [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl ******************************* On 6 August 2016 at 10:10, Christian Aretz <[3][email protected]> wrote: Please excuse my lack of interest in netiquette-discussions, but wouldn't it be a good moment to stop this publicly conducted (and meanwhile extremely annoying!) discussion now (!) and get back to normal life and lute related topics? Thanks, Christian > Am 06.08.2016 um 09:53 schrieb Martyn Hodgson <[4][email protected]>: > > Dear Monica, > Well, kettle and pot comes to mind! But seriously, I'm certainly happy > to admit that I was wrong in this case by expecting a personal email to > remain private. This is the whole point of my last message which, I'm > very sorry to say, you have avoided addressing. Whether I know Anton > Hoger (I don't) and his work (only what's on ISMLP) is wholly > immaterial to this matter. > And finally, how is it wrong to suggest to someone that there may be > other ways to achieve what they may be wishing to do? And how is it > wrong to do this privately and so avoiding (or trying to) any personal > embarrassment and ridiculous slanging matches? > regards, > Martyn > ____________________________________________________________ ______ > > From: "[5][email protected]" <[6][email protected]> > To: LutList <[7][email protected]> > Cc: Martyn Hodgson <[8][email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016, 17:41 > Subject: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy > Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he > might be in the wrong. > As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows > nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or > why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it. > I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off > the list and say to him - if this is what he did say > "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This > would save > you much mundane work making these unnecessary > transcriptions/arrangements". > Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn. > Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are > unnecessry. > If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps > you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you > have never met and say it to them in private. > That seems like harassment to me. > As ever > Monica > ----Original Message---- > From: [1][9][email protected] > Date: 05/08/2016 12:38 > To: "[2][10][email protected]"<[3][11] [email protected]>, > "[4][12][email protected]. > uk"<[5][13][email protected]> > Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy > Dear Monica, > Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list > since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant > helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight, > a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in > this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit > one from conducting private communications if considered more > appropriate (and tactful..........). > In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow: > a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his > message yesterday. > And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally > with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway) > then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful > and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual > list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I > think.......... > regards, > Martyn. > ________________________________ > From: "[6][14][email protected]" <[7][15][email protected]> > To: LutList <[8][16][email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31 > Subject: [LUTE] Privacy > I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is > often the case with these arguments. > If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact > you directly if you accept them as friends. > This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator, nobody > decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has access > to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused. > As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted details > of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything > helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more useful > than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and are > grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here. We > have discussed this before. > Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a > one- > to-one correspondence with you? > Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too. > Monica > To get on or off this list see list information at > [9][17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[18][email protected] > 2. mailto:[19][email protected] > 3. mailto:[20][email protected] > 4. mailto:[21][email protected]. > 5. mailto:[22][email protected] > 6. mailto:[23][email protected] > 7. mailto:[24][email protected] > 8. mailto:[25][email protected] > 9. 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