Christian et al.
   It is possible to set up your email program to filter out emails from
   individuals. That's what I do with repeated spammers, boors or
   insulters on this list. I know, a filtered life is less diversified,
   but it's also nice and quiet.
   David out

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   David van Ooijen
   [1][email protected]
   [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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   On 6 August 2016 at 10:17, Martyn Hodgson
   <[3][email protected]> wrote:

        Dear Christian,
        Point taken - though others also expressed concern that personal
     emails
        became public! Bit I'll aim to send any further communications on
     this
        direct matter only to Monica.
        regards,
        Martyn
          ____________________________________________________________
     ______
        From: Christian Aretz <[4][email protected]>
        To: Martyn Hodgson <[5][email protected]>
        Cc: "[6][email protected]" <[7][email protected]>;
     LutList
        <[8][email protected]>
        Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2016, 9:10
        Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy
        Please excuse my lack of interest in netiquette-discussions, but
        wouldn't it be a good moment to stop this publicly conducted (and
        meanwhile extremely annoying!) discussion now (!) and get back to
        normal life and lute related topics?
        Thanks,
        Christian
        > Am 06.08.2016 um 09:53 schrieb Martyn Hodgson
        <[1][9][email protected]>:
        >
        >   Dear Monica,
        >   Well, kettle and pot comes to mind!   But seriously, I'm
     certainly
        happy
        >   to admit that I was wrong in this case by expecting a
     personal email
        to
        >   remain private. This is the whole point of my last message
     which,
        I'm
        >   very sorry to say, you have avoided addressing. Whether I
     know Anton
        >   Hoger (I don't) and his work (only what's on ISMLP) is wholly
        >   immaterial to this matter.
        >   And finally, how is it wrong to suggest to someone that there
     may be
        >   other ways to achieve what they may be wishing to do? And how
     is it
        >   wrong to do this privately and so avoiding (or trying to) any
        personal
        >   embarrassment and ridiculous slanging matches?
        >   regards,
        >   Martyn
        >     ______________________________
     ____________________________________
        >
        >   From: "[2][10][email protected]"
     <[3][11][email protected]>
        >   To: LutList <[4][12][email protected]>
        >   Cc: Martyn Hodgson <[5][13][email protected]>
        >   Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016, 17:41
        >   Subject: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
        >   Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never
     admit that
        he
        >   might be in the wrong.
        >   As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally,
     knows
        >   nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is
     doing it
        or
        >   why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it.
        >   I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact
     Anton
        off
        >   the list and say to him - if this is what he did say
        >   "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass?
     This
        >   would save
        >   you much mundane work making these unnecessary
        >   transcriptions/arrangements".
        >   Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice
     from
        Martyn.
        >   Other people certainly don't think that Anton's
     transcriptions are
        >   unnecessry.
        >   If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public
     perhaps
        >   you should ask yourself what right you have to contact
     someone whom
        you
        >   have never met and say it to them in private.
        >   That seems like harassment to me.
        >   As ever
        >   Monica
        >   ----Original Message----
        >   From: [1][6][14][email protected]
        >   Date: 05/08/2016 12:38
        >   To: "[2][7][15][email protected]"<
     [3][8][16][email protected]>,
        >   "[4][9][17][email protected].
        >   uk"<[5][10][18][email protected]>
        >   Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
        >   Dear Monica,
        >   Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open
     list
        >   since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if
     meant
        >   helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as
     a
        slight,
        >   a private rather than public message was thought more
     appropriate in
        >   this case. Just because someone's name is on this list
     doesn't
        prohibit
        >   one from conducting private communications if considered more
        >   appropriate (and tactful..........).
        >   In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest
     to
        follow:
        >   a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this
     out in
        his
        >   message yesterday.
        >   And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things
        personally
        >   with another individual list member (who we may already know
     anyway)
        >   then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more
     useful
        >   and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from
        individual
        >   list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for
     courses I
        >   think..........
        >   regards,
        >   Martyn.
        >   ________________________________
        >   From: "[6][11][19][email protected]"
     <[7][12][20][email protected]>
        >   To: LutList <[8][13][21][email protected]>
        >   Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31
        >   Subject: [LUTE] Privacy
        >   I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued -
     as is
        >   often the case with these arguments.
        >   If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only
     contact
        >   you directly if you accept them as friends.
        >   This list is different.   Anyone can join, there is no
     moderator,
        nobody
        >   decides who may join.   That means that everyone on the list
     has
        access
        >   to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be
     abused.
        >   As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted
        details
        >   of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has
     anything
        >   helpful to say that might help Anton   to make his work even
     more
        useful
        >   than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very
     useful and
        are
        >   grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it
     here.
        We
        >   have discussed this before.
        >   Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to
     engage in a
        >   one-
        >   to-one correspondence with you?
        >   Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued
     too.
        >   Monica
        >   To get on or off this list see list information at
        >   [9][14][22]http://www.cs.[23]dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/
     index.html
        >
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        >
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        >
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