Oops, now I'm the bore/spammer. ;-)
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David van Ooijen
[1][email protected]
[2]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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On 6 August 2016 at 11:52, David van Ooijen
<[3][email protected]> wrote:
Christian et al.
I block people that spam, bore or insult. The way the lutelist
works
means that such a filter is not perfect, but it helps a little.
David Out
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David van Ooijen
[1][4][email protected]
[2][5]www.davidvanooijen.nl
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On 6 August 2016 at 10:10, Christian Aretz
<[3][6][email protected]> wrote:
Please excuse my lack of interest in netiquette-discussions,
but
wouldn't it be a good moment to stop this publicly conducted
(and
meanwhile extremely annoying!) discussion now (!) and get back
to
normal life and lute related topics?
Thanks,
Christian
> Am 06.08.2016 um 09:53 schrieb Martyn Hodgson
<[4][7][email protected]>:
>
> Dear Monica,
> Well, kettle and pot comes to mind! But seriously, I'm
certainly happy
> to admit that I was wrong in this case by expecting a
personal
email to
> remain private. This is the whole point of my last
message
which, I'm
> very sorry to say, you have avoided addressing. Whether I
know
Anton
> Hoger (I don't) and his work (only what's on ISMLP) is
wholly
> immaterial to this matter.
> And finally, how is it wrong to suggest to someone that
there
may be
> other ways to achieve what they may be wishing to do? And
how
is it
> wrong to do this privately and so avoiding (or trying to)
any
personal
> embarrassment and ridiculous slanging matches?
> regards,
> Martyn
> ______________________________
______________________________
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>
> From: "[5][8][email protected]"
<[6][9][email protected]>
> To: LutList <[7][10][email protected]>
> Cc: Martyn Hodgson <[8][11][email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016, 17:41
> Subject: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
> Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never
admit
that he
> might be in the wrong.
> As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton
personally,
knows
> nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he
is
doing it or
> why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to
it.
> I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to
contact
Anton off
> the list and say to him - if this is what he did say
> "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured
bass?
This
> would save
> you much mundane work making these unnecessary
> transcriptions/arrangements".
> Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any
advice from
Martyn.
> Other people certainly don't think that Anton's
transcriptions
are
> unnecessry.
> If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in
public
perhaps
> you should ask yourself what right you have to contact
someone
whom you
> have never met and say it to them in private.
> That seems like harassment to me.
> As ever
> Monica
> ----Original Message----
> From: [1][9][12][email protected]
> Date: 05/08/2016 12:38
> To: "[2][10][13][email protected]"<[3][11]
[14][email protected]>,
> "[4][12][15][email protected].
> uk"<[5][13][16][email protected]>
> Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
> Dear Monica,
> Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the
open
list
> since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if
meant
> helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting),
as a
slight,
> a private rather than public message was thought more
appropriate in
> this case. Just because someone's name is on this list
doesn't
prohibit
> one from conducting private communications if considered
more
> appropriate (and tactful..........).
> In general I think the usual protocol is probably the
wisest to
follow:
> a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets
this out
in his
> message yesterday.
> And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss
things
personally
> with another individual list member (who we may already
know
anyway)
> then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the
more
useful
> and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by
from
individual
> list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for
courses
I
> think..........
> regards,
> Martyn.
> ________________________________
> From: "[6][14][17][email protected]"
<[7][15][18][email protected]>
> To: LutList <[8][16][19][email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31
> Subject: [LUTE] Privacy
> I think that what I was trying to say has been
misconstrued -
as is
> often the case with these arguments.
> If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can
only
contact
> you directly if you accept them as friends.
> This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no
moderator, nobody
> decides who may join. That means that everyone on the
list
has access
> to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be
abused.
> As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had
posted
details
> of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has
anything
> helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work
even
more useful
> than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very
useful
and are
> grateful to him for posting the details - then why not
say it
here. We
> have discussed this before.
> Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to
engage
in a
> one-
> to-one correspondence with you?
> Better leave it at that as this will probably be
misconstrued
too.
> Monica
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> [9][17][20]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/
index.html
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