But on the other hand you can listen to almost anything on You Tube. Whenever our choirmaster comes up with a new anthem or mass setting or the vicar discovers another hymn we haven't had before I can usually find a recording of it instantly available on You Tube when I get home from church. You pays your money and takes your choice. Whether the artists make any money out of it is another matter. As ever MOnica
----Original Message---- From: [email protected] Date: 05/08/2016 17:25 To: "M Hall"<[email protected]> Cc: "LutList"<[email protected]>, "Martyn Hodgson" <[email protected]> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Protocol was Re: Privacy To me, the real tragedy of YouTube is that they pander to some of the lowest forms of entertainment imaginable. I have, unfortunately learned about some of them from my 14 year old daughter. Top of the trash heap is PewDiePie, a purveyor of profanity, stupidity and trash with 42 million subscribers and an income from YouTube of approximately $14 Million dollars per year. My daughter is addicted to "Dan and Phil", panderers of senseless nonsense who earn $6 Million per year from 1.6 million subscribers. The list goes on and on ad nauseum. The old adage that TV was the vast wasteland has been replaced by YouTube being the vast wasteland. Whatever promise existed in the past for lutenists to make some money on YouTube could be very well obliterated by this assault from low budget, low skill set potty-mouthed amateurs commandeering the attention of the juvenile audience. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Retired Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1][email protected] Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) But don't call the lab....I won't be there! On Aug 5, 2016, at 9:41 AM, [3][email protected] wrote: Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he might be in the wrong. As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it. I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off the list and say to him - if this is what he did say "Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This would save you much mundane work making these unnecessary transcriptions/arrangements". Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn. Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are unnecessry. If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you have never met and say it to them in private. That seems like harassment to me. As ever Monica ----Original Message---- From: [4][email protected] Date: 05/08/2016 12:38 To: "[5][email protected]"<[6][email protected]>, "[7][email protected]. uk"<[8][email protected]> Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy Dear Monica, Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight, a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit one from conducting private communications if considered more appropriate (and tactful..........). In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow: a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his message yesterday. And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway) then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I think.......... regards, Martyn. ________________________________ From: "[9][email protected]" <[10][email protected]> To: LutList <[11][email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31 Subject: [LUTE] Privacy I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is often the case with these arguments. If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact you directly if you accept them as friends. This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator, nobody decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has access to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused. As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted details of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more useful than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and are grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here. We have discussed this before. Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a one- to-one correspondence with you? Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too. 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